English & white - not good if you live in London

I find London to be a bit of an enigma. On one hand I love how big it is, the anonymity of it. The endless things to do and places to see. To an EXTENT, the cultural aspects and meeting people from different backgrounds etc But having lived abroad in my life I've never had a problem meeting people from other backgrounds. I've known people from all over the world from a young age as I lived abroad.

But then I think to myself how it's difficult to fit in as a white working class English guy sometimes. Honestly, unless you mix in middle class circles you simply don't get the chance to meet groups of white people. The polarisation of rich/poor means you have middle class enclaves mixed in with the poverty, council estate type of areas.

I've just grown tired of not being able to meet hardly any white english people at all. It seems the only way to meet them is by joining a sports team. But I'm tired of going to school or college or work and being a 10% minority. In my last 2 jobs there were hardly any white english people, and these are big retail companies. At school literally about 90% of the school was just catering for ethnic children and unless you go to a good/bordering middle class/bordering private school - it is always like that.

If you go into places like Subway and so on, you'll see an Asian manager and 9/10 it's full of Asian workers. I've seen this countless of times in places like Sainsbury's and Poundland etc They'll literally just employ Asians and some Poles.

It's really affected my social life and my chances with girls. Let's consider that I only really like white girls in general, and I don't have any middle class friends or circles - therefore it's very very hard to meet white english girls who aren't ghetto. The people outside of London are very different to the types in London. You only have to compare the types of white people in unis outside of London, compared to the white people in London unis to be able to see the social differences between them. To the point where having lived both in and inside of London, I can look at a group of people and tell whether or not they are from London. The people outside of London will be more kind of traditionally English.

I don't see why I should have to move out of London to meet white people. Also I've been moved around in my life so much that I just want to settle now.

I just think it's a big shame. I'm also pissed off at the idea that black/asian people think they can call white people like myself racist just because we want to meet some of our own. I mean, we are now a minority according to the latest census figures. Why shouldn't we meet some of our own? Asians and black people congregate together in their own communities and neighbourhoods and jobs and so on, why shouldn't we? It's like you have a group of 20 people with 2 white people - that is multiculturalism. Everything is fine and dandy. Have 18 white people and that group is perceived to be potentially racist by other ethnic minorities.

Sadly, I know I'm not the only white person thinking this exact same thing. Noone really wants to talk about it in fear of accusations, but I know that many white English people feel the same. White English people will become extinct certainly in London within about 15 years.

I'll go into work tomorrow and meet my 15 odd work colleagues. I'm the only English person. They're a great bunch and we have a laugh. But it's alienating being in England and being the only white English person knocking about. You start to lose your identity. I mean it's only natural. If a black or asian guy/girl was surrounded by 14 white people at work in Pakistan or Nigeria how would they feel?

Where the hell did you get that from?

Plus, if you're living in an area with high ethnic minority populations, then surely, they would constitute a major makeup of the businesses e.g. Subway.

"Have 18 white people and that group is perceived to be potentially racist by other ethnic minorities." - what are you on about?

"I'll go into work tomorrow and meet my 15 odd work colleagues. I'm the only English person. They're a great bunch and we have a laugh. But it's alienating being in England and being the only white English person knocking about" - what's the problem then?

Skin colour shouldn't be a factor when it comes to judging people.

White people make up the majority of where I live in my part of London, probably cos it's Bromley. I suppose it varies from borough to borough. If you've ever seen Made in Chelsea, nearly everyone on that is white, and they all unmistakeably live in London.

We could be here all night. People of all colours judge on colour, it's a simple fact. White, black, asian you name it.

This thing about trying to beat white people down when they raise any issues is exactly why white English people won't exist in London in about 20 years. We don't have a voice!

EDIT: It's not coincidence that alot of white people are moving to places like Hertfordshire, Essex and Guildford as well as leaving to live in places like Australia.

White people make up the majority of where I live in my part of London, probably cos it's Bromley. I suppose it varies from borough to borough. If you've ever seen Made in Chelsea, nearly everyone on that is white, and they all unmistakeably live in London.

Its not racist to have a racial preference to girls ............if you want to just have solely white friends because you feel you'd fit in better then go for it.

I don't have any issue.........to be fair I know people from different backgrounds........I couldn't care what colour they were, as long as they are nice people and worth the time to talk to and be good friends and we respect one another then it should be fine.

Plus businesses aren't allowed to discriminate..............they hire on the basis of who they think will do the best and be value for money, if it has to be a bunch of asians who show this and on merit excel then so be it. Why would any business hire someone just cos of their colour, it would be against the law.



Then don't move out............I dont even see the point your making.....you live in London, then start being social and find people. Cos why would people who are either Asian, Black, etc move out just cos of your preference.....London is there home too not just yours. Everyone has negatives of where they live, thats reality and people live by it every day so grow up.

We could be here all night. People of all colours judge on colour, it's a simple fact. White, black, asian you name it.

This thing about trying to beat white people down when they raise any issues is exactly why white English people won't exist in London in about 20 years. We don't have a voice!

EDIT: It's not coincidence that alot of white people are moving to places like Hertfordshire, Essex and Guildford as well as leaving to live in places like Australia.

EDIT: It's not coincidence that alot of white people are moving to places like Hertfordshire, Essex and Guildford as well as leaving to live in places like Australia.

The fact of the matter is, regardless of all of your nonsense, Britain still retains a massive majority of white people. Maybe you should move out of parts of London, then your narrow worldview will be shattered?

South West England, maybe? Or the North? Like York or Scunthorpe or Sheffield?

Like I said I have no problems being friends with anyone from any backgrounds. I don't care where they are from. But why should I not want to meet some white English people, being one myself and living in the capital of England. This includes meeting girls for dating etc

You say start being more social but you're still not seeing my point. My point is that unless you went to a good school with a balanced student base, you will never really get a good opportunity to have a good social life as a white working class person in London. It's so much harder to create a social life from virtually scratch after school (I'm 22 now), and it's made even harder in London because the culture of English people isn't really present as it is so mixed up. The only place where white English people mix is through middle class circles.

So basically white people are facilitating the lack of white people in London...