English & white - not good if you live in London

My A2 geography fieldwork was on sand dunes on a beach in Anglesey. I was one of the few people who had the fun job of actually measuring the size of the dunes rather than looking at the vegetation on them

EDIT: Getting a bit off topic now lol

Would there be anything wrong with a French person wanting to meet up with people of the same culture, but only so long as they're white? YES.

Non-white people can be British. The problem isn't that the OP wants to have British friends. The problem is that the OP wants to have "white British friends". Most of the young "foreigners" in London are second generation immigrants, thus they have lived here their whole lives and are British. At the very least, most young people moved here as very small children and so aren't much different to their white counterparts in terms of cultural knowledge and behaviour. Also, notice how the only "foreigners" he is fed up of seeing around are all non-white. And that's what makes his point unacceptable.

He's also misleading with his statistics. OK, so more that 50% of the population of (some areas of) London are non-white. So if you carve it into white/everyone else then sure, white people are the minority. But in reality no one sees the world like that: they see it as X% white British, Y% Bengali, Z% Caribbean etc. White people are still the largest ethnic group by far in most areas if you actually bother to look beyond "white British vs everyone else", so in no way are they truly a minority.

I think you should learn what a strawman is before you accuse people of it. Or read the OP's post and understand what he's actually saying.

I didn't change what you posted at all. I simply quoted it and the provided what I think is a better analogy. You were comparing the OP wanting British friends to a Frenchman wanting French friends, conveniently ignoring that the OP wants WHITE British friends, not British friends in general. Thus, his situation is analogous to the situation I portrayed, not the one you did.

I can maybe understand you wanting to meet BRITISH people with british culture but you're saying they have to be white? Britain isn't about being white, it's about being British you moron. Btw, white British people are still the most abundant so they're not a minority like you're claiming.

You say something about the people of London being different, they may well be different and if you don't like it, you can move. Londoners will act like Londoners, they aren't going to change for you. That's like coming to Britain and saying I don't like British people because they act like British people.

Do everyone a favour and move to Mars, I've heard theres no black/asian people there.

It seems like you can't raise a racial issue on tsr without being pulled apart! If it was possible for everyone to see his point of view from a mutual perspective then these threads would be more meaningful but there's so many different backgrounds of TSR users that no real conclusion is made...which is normal, of course!

i think your focusing more on economic status because you say there are white people in London but they are either chav's or educated middle class. i don't understand why your looking for a middle class girl in a "getto" area, logic dictates you must go to a middle class area to find middle class people. and look for the white middle class people. i don't understand why your so fixated on finding white friends having a preference is fine but to be honest most people don't pay much attention iv'e been friends with white, black, Asian, Italian, japanese it just shouldn't matter really not that having a preference is wrong its just my opinion

I don't feel any discomfort being a rarity between so many mixed people. I live almost in Central London and Elephant&Castle station is like 5-10min away from me and like 90% of people are non-white but am okay with that. Where I came from, 99% of people were white and it was boring, we had only like 1% of people from other background like I've seen in my town few Chinese people and like 2-3 Black people, the rest were all white. It was so boring and when seeing a different race of a person, it was like exotic to the eyes, not because of the race but because of a variety

She didn't add to your post. In your post, it came across that you were supporting the OP. She was simply pointing that what you said in that post is NOT what the OP was saying, therefore you were incorrect in making your comparison.
She wasn't trying to say that what you said was in any way racist, but that your comparison was flawed.

I don't think anyone has an issue with people gathering with others of a shared background or heritage, but it's when they only want to gather with those *of a certain race* (which is what OP was saying) then THAT becomes racist. It is not "PC" to say so.


Please neg me back, it's only fair

I'm quite sure she did. Again, she was pointing out that you seemed to hint that people had a problem with others hanging out with people of the same background, which is NOT the substantive issue here. The issue here is that OP only wants WHITE people of his background to hang out with.

She was juxtaposing what you said with what OP said, as opposed to quoting you and slipping in the race issue. In reality, she was trying to point out what the OP was saying, but she replied to YOU because you seemed to be referencing something said, but you missed out on the essence of that reference, which is why she was trying to CORRECT you instead of quote you.

The fact that you missed out on the blatant racist leanings of OP's post was the main reason that I negged you btw. But now I'm sorry

If you don't like it move to the countryside where you can eat your fish and chips in peace.

Personally I think you just don't have any social skills so you can't make friends, you're just using skin colour as an excuse. Even if you moved to an all white place you'd still be the same. I know white people who have been to almost all asian schools and live in asian areas but still have good social lives.

EDIT: It's not coincidence that alot of white people are moving to places like Hertfordshire, Essex and Guildford as well as leaving to live in places like Australia.

However, Made in Chelsea does seem to embellish the reality of Chelsea. In reality, Chelsea is filled with many ethnic minorities although the white population does form the majority.

100% agree with this

At a guess I myself would fall into the 'white middle-class' category, and personally I think the more diversity the better! White people are great of course, but at the same time there is so much we can learn from the cultures of other nations/races. For instance, in London you have access to pretty much any food in the world - French, Greek, Italian, Thai, Vietnamese, Lebanese... the list goes on. We wouldn't have these amazing restaurants if it wasn't for the diversity in our nation today.


In terms of the opposite sex - which the OP seems to be primarily concerned about - of course there are tons of beautiful, interesting, funny white girls, but equally London is full of exotic and amazing Asian, Oriental, Middle Eastern girls... variety is after all the spice of life In my time I've dated white, mixed race, British-Indian, Chinese - all of these girls were pretty, smart, funny, and most of all each completely unique


I get that people don't want to see our country being 'eroded' or whatever, but personally (working in London myself) I have never felt in the 'minority' - white people still seem to make up the majority of people, even in some very cosmopolitan areas of East London.


So, yeah, bring on the diversity

Okay then. Why can't you be friends with other people? Why just white people? I have a group of freinds that have backgrounds from all over the world, including white english and have been freinds for 5 years. Why is it so hard to make friends with non- white english people??

If you don't like it, the go to scotland. I hear they have nice weather there.

Let me throw this one around

How about if I said go and eat your chicken wings in nigeria.

Why is that any worse than what you said?

It's exactly this really - most white Londoners, apart from the wealthy, have moved to the surrounding counties. This isn't largely because they feel scared, marginalised etc, it's because they've done well for themselves and have the sense to see that you can get a far bigger house for your cash if you move further out, and have a better standard of living. Why have a grotty 2 bed terrace in Mile End when you could have a 4 bedroom detached in Kent?

London is becoming a rich man's playground, serviced by a large underclass of poor service industry workers, so I'd suggest doing the same, moving out and commuting in

I don't see why I should have to move out of London to meet white people. Also I've been moved around in my life so much that I just want to settle now.