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Original post by Anonymous
Hi there :smile:

I'm new to the thread and was looking for some help/opinions about telling my boyfriend about my food issues...

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He won't think badly of you. Your past is as much part of you as any other aspect of your current personality and having such a past doesn't change who you ARE now. Because it's already happened. Sorta thing. It can startle some to be fair and you need to be in the right state in the relationship (I'd say you're safe if you've known him from at least April) but having it out there is a necessity for a healthy relationship, not just a healthy psyche. When talking about it, not to sound like an arrogant twot, but you have to take into consideration the emotional intelligence of the person you are telling to to know how to word it. When I told my family initially (it was fairly obvious to be fair) my Mum took on the right approach, understood the psychology and worked as a support. My Dad was a doofus and just rammed insta-meals at me and attempted guilt tripping which, as anybody who has any experience with ED's will tell you, is not the way to do it.

Push the eating to the back of your mind. You are in control here, not the ED. After you've decided how to tell your BF ask him just for a little back up once in a while. Binging with most is a 'private' affair but if you ask to speak to him maybe during those heightened emotional moments, just supporting you during the purgy feely moments. Concentrate on keeping 'the whole' calm instead of just the ED. The ED is a symptom here of a grander thing happening to you, find what triggers it and aim at THAT.

Original post by Anonymous
Anyone got any advice on the urge to control everyone else around you? :redface:

I can not get it out of my head that my BF needs to lose weight (he's overweight, and has expressed that he wants to get back to a healthy weight before, so it's not completely unfounded) and I seem to be getting at him about it quite a lot, which is horrible for him and pushing us apart. On the flip side, if he tells me that he hasn't eaten lunch or doesn't feel hungry enough for a proper dinner, I get very upset and insist that he has something decent. All the time it's a constant tug of war between me telling him that he needs to exercise and cut down on the ****ty food he eats and me telling him that he has to eat something. :colondollar: It's starting to seriously affect 'us' as he's getting annoyed now. :frown:


The obvious one of just level down the support. Tell him that he is in control, you can help in plan things out but the way he manages it overall is up to him. Tell him having 3 meals a day is probably best for balance, just add that if he NEEDS any help you are willing to lend one. Bite your tongue at times (which can be difficult) but if something so trivial is playing with the relationship you need to be able to batter it down fast. Sometimes these sorta things having a snowballing effect which may lead you to become more controlling and him to be more internally angry'n'crap.

Original post by JLW95
Sorry everything that I have contributed to this thread is so negative at the moment, but I just feel so negative at the moment. Quite a strong post, and I don't mean to offend anyone with saying I'm sort of wanting hospitalisation, I just feel I need help to cope at the moment :frown:

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All the best everyone.


Oh darling. :frown:

Sometimes it is better to get professional help, no two ways about it and it is not the ED winning out. The ED achieving what it wants would be if you DON'T do whatever possible to try and beat it. Try penning dark thoughts down in colour or what have you, find something to help you release the pent up emotion. Prescriptions and pills can take you so far, but perseverance and some form of other coping strategies are also needed alongside. Finding how to balance all that stuff inside of you is needed for long term recovery. Try things that YOU think will work. Literally do it. Write a list of what you think can help you. Nothing sinister now, just things that in your own head tell you will help you break out of it. Set a self-fulfilling positive prophecy. Drawing will help. Writing poetry will help. Bathing in the goat's milk will help. I don't know. But you do.

But please. Do what you feel is best. Look at yourself from a 3rd person's perspective, i.e. if you were looking through a stranger's eyes.
I'm getting really really triggered by my sister who is home. She is so beautiful and thin. Its making me restrict... any tips on how to fight this?
Original post by Antiaris
The obvious one of just level down the support. Tell him that he is in control, you can help in plan things out but the way he manages it overall is up to him. Tell him having 3 meals a day is probably best for balance, just add that if he NEEDS any help you are willing to lend one. Bite your tongue at times (which can be difficult) but if something so trivial is playing with the relationship you need to be able to batter it down fast. Sometimes these sorta things having a snowballing effect which may lead you to become more controlling and him to be more internally angry'n'crap.


He doesn't do it though - if he's left to his own devices he eats McDonalds all day and stuffs 200g bars of dairy milk in one go.
Got some more questions about referrals/appointments if anyone's able to help. I know these things work differently around the country but I'm a little confused about the process I'm being put through so if anyone can help that would be great.

I first saw my GP about my ED three weeks ago. He sent me for an ECG and bloods and then I saw him again just before I went home from uni for Christmas, and he said he was referring me to the 'eating disorders team' and to expect a letter from them. That letter came today, but it came from the Leeds and York Partnership Community Mental Health Team. I've got an assessment with a mental health nurse and a specialist practitioner in eating disorders, but it doesn't really give me any information about what's going to happen or what might happen next. One of the things I feel like would really help is a nutritionist and it doesn't mention that in any of the information about the services they provide. Is it likely that my treatment now will come through the CMHT or will they refer me on to more specialist services if they think that's what I need? Just a little confused about what's going to happen next...

I'm also really really stressing out about the prospect of them weighing me and to be honest my first instinct is to lose as much weight as possible before the appointment. I'll have seen my GP less than a week beforehand for a weigh-in so is there any chance they'll just settle for the weight he updates my records with, or will they want to see for themselves? I'm so scared of them thinking I weigh too much to need treatment.
Original post by jazzykinks
Okay, you should tell him. Just do it in a quiet place and tell him. No one expects you to keep soldiering on. You need support and certainly at uni; your boyfriend can provide it. He won't judge you badly or change how he treats you -- you've been together for a while because he cares about you. People are a lot more understanding about these things than we think :smile: x



Original post by Antiaris
He won't think badly of you. Your past is as much part of you as any other aspect of your current personality and having such a past doesn't change who you ARE now. Because it's already happened. Sorta thing. It can startle some to be fair and you need to be in the right state in the relationship (I'd say you're safe if you've known him from at least April) but having it out there is a necessity for a healthy relationship, not just a healthy psyche. When talking about it, not to sound like an arrogant twot, but you have to take into consideration the emotional intelligence of the person you are telling to to know how to word it. When I told my family initially (it was fairly obvious to be fair) my Mum took on the right approach, understood the psychology and worked as a support. My Dad was a doofus and just rammed insta-meals at me and attempted guilt tripping which, as anybody who has any experience with ED's will tell you, is not the way to do it.

Push the eating to the back of your mind. You are in control here, not the ED. After you've decided how to tell your BF ask him just for a little back up once in a while. Binging with most is a 'private' affair but if you ask to speak to him maybe during those heightened emotional moments, just supporting you during the purgy feely moments. Concentrate on keeping 'the whole' calm instead of just the ED. The ED is a symptom here of a grander thing happening to you, find what triggers it and aim at THAT.


Thank you both for your advice. I really will try to pluck up the courage to tell him, I feel like he deserves to know. We have known each other years and have had a fantastic relationship from April so I really do hope he'll be supportive. I hope he'll understand :redface: He does do psychology so I hope that means he'll be more understanding than my parents/family would be :redface: Ahh I'm still worried about how he'll react but I guess he really does need to know.
Thank you for encouraging me more to tell him :smile: I definitley will as soon as I can :redface:
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Original post by Antiaris

Oh darling. :frown:

Sometimes it is better to get professional help, no two ways about it and it is not the ED winning out. The ED achieving what it wants would be if you DON'T do whatever possible to try and beat it. Try penning dark thoughts down in colour or what have you, find something to help you release the pent up emotion. Prescriptions and pills can take you so far, but perseverance and some form of other coping strategies are also needed alongside. Finding how to balance all that stuff inside of you is needed for long term recovery. Try things that YOU think will work. Literally do it. Write a list of what you think can help you. Nothing sinister now, just things that in your own head tell you will help you break out of it. Set a self-fulfilling positive prophecy. Drawing will help. Writing poetry will help. Bathing in the goat's milk will help. I don't know. But you do.

But please. Do what you feel is best. Look at yourself from a 3rd person's perspective, i.e. if you were looking through a stranger's eyes.


Thanks for the advice :smile: I just feel that I'm never going to be able overcome it as an outpatient. I know I've got my first dietian meeting on Thursday morning where hopefully they can help me come up with a meal plan, which I intend to stick to whether 'it' likes it or not; and another nurse meeting on Friday when I go in to be weighed and have my measures checked. I even tried to do a bit of school work yesterday, which lasted for all of 10 minutes before I began nodding off :frown:

In the evening after I posted my last message I finally told another one of my closest friends what has been happening with me, showing him my first post on here as Anon 152. He's reassured me that all my friends, who I feel I've been horrible to as my condition worsened, and I now feel guilty about will support me through this :smile: Also I had a message off another member of family supporting me. I broke down with tears just hearing it from my friend, as I feel like I've got the support of everyone behind me now :smile:

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Guys, is there any way you can get any extra help or consideration in exams? I've achieved Firsts in my assignments and my last set of exams and never ever let the illness get in the way of my study, but this time my diabetes and anorexia have really screwed me over and it's so so hard to work right now. I did the exam yesterday which was fine but my next is Friday and I had to leave the library today because I feel so weak and faint. Can't get my work done, so frustrated, has anyone managed to sit the exam at a later date instead? I really can't get in the work that I need to by Friday and feel like a complete disappointment to myself.
Anorexia is always so much worse during exam time and now diabetes has suffered on top....GRRRRRRRR.
Original post by x-Disenchanted-x
Guys, is there any way you can get any extra help or consideration in exams? I've achieved Firsts in my assignments and my last set of exams and never ever let the illness get in the way of my study, but this time my diabetes and anorexia have really screwed me over and it's so so hard to work right now. I did the exam yesterday which was fine but my next is Friday and I had to leave the library today because I feel so weak and faint. Can't get my work done, so frustrated, has anyone managed to sit the exam at a later date instead? I really can't get in the work that I need to by Friday and feel like a complete disappointment to myself.
Anorexia is always so much worse during exam time and now diabetes has suffered on top....GRRRRRRRR.


at my uni you can apply for mitigating circumstances which mean you can essentially resit the exam at a later date (like you would normally if you just failed for whatever reason) only it counts as your first time taking it so you're able to retake AGAIN if you need to. does that make sense? so you do it as if it were a retake, but it officially only counts as your first attempt. not sure if that helps, but don't be afraid to ask for support. i'm currently trying to wrangle all the extra time i can out of my department for essays because of eating problems, they're there to help you!
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Just hoping someone might be able to help me here. I haven't eaten right in a while. My nana came up tonight to talk to me and said she thinks I have an eating disorder and that it's not my fault. I starve myself I started getting stomach problems a while back and I had depression and doctors put it down to stress. Since around September I haven't been eating meals at college I save the money. I can't eat in public, I barely eat at all. I thought it was problems with my stomach but now I think I might have a problem mentally instead of a physical problem. I always feel full and sick. I never feel hungry and I don't even get the hunger pains anymore.

I used to be fatter and I got depressed but by not eating I feel like I have power because only I can control it. I only eat tiny tiny amounts of food. I weigh myself constantly but since a few days ago the scales have gone missing and I think my nana has taken it away if she feels I have an eating disorder. I got confused because I thought people with their bones sticking out had an eating disorder. Since september I've been starving myself and eating less food weighing myself constantly I'd be really happy if I'd lost weight but upset if I'd put any on. Even when I reached my goals I kept wanting to lose more and more. Even after eating small amounts I have the urge to be sick and feel really guilty about putting calories and fat in to my body. I thought I couldn't have an eating disorder if I was a healthy weight. I've gone from 11 stone 9 pounds to 9 stone something when I last checked, nearly 8 stone. I never have an appetite any more, even though I used to stuff my face with food. I can't do that anymore cos my stomach and mind don't seem to want food. I don't want to eat but I feel tired and dizzy all the time. I feel like I really am fighting and getting worse and if I don't get help it's going to spiral out of control. I do wish I could go back to how I was eating normally. Does this sound like an eating disorder? I am thinking of seeing a doctor but don't know if I'll be taken seriously as I'm still a healthy weight for my height (5 ft 6)
I have a question about health problems caused by purging.

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Original post by iJess
Just hoping someone might be able to help me here. I haven't eaten right in a while. My nana came up tonight to talk to me and said she thinks I have an eating disorder and that it's not my fault. I starve myself I started getting stomach problems a while back and I had depression and doctors put it down to stress. Since around September I haven't been eating meals at college I save the money. I can't eat in public, I barely eat at all. I thought it was problems with my stomach but now I think I might have a problem mentally instead of a physical problem. I always feel full and sick. I never feel hungry and I don't even get the hunger pains anymore.

I used to be fatter and I got depressed but by not eating I feel like I have power because only I can control it. I only eat tiny tiny amounts of food. I weigh myself constantly but since a few days ago the scales have gone missing and I think my nana has taken it away if she feels I have an eating disorder. I got confused because I thought people with their bones sticking out had an eating disorder. Since september I've been starving myself and eating less food weighing myself constantly I'd be really happy if I'd lost weight but upset if I'd put any on. Even when I reached my goals I kept wanting to lose more and more. Even after eating small amounts I have the urge to be sick and feel really guilty about putting calories and fat in to my body. I thought I couldn't have an eating disorder if I was a healthy weight. I've gone from 11 stone 9 pounds to 9 stone something when I last checked, nearly 8 stone. I never have an appetite any more, even though I used to stuff my face with food. I can't do that anymore cos my stomach and mind don't seem to want food. I don't want to eat but I feel tired and dizzy all the time. I feel like I really am fighting and getting worse and if I don't get help it's going to spiral out of control. I do wish I could go back to how I was eating normally. Does this sound like an eating disorder? I am thinking of seeing a doctor but don't know if I'll be taken seriously as I'm still a healthy weight for my height (5 ft 6)


You don't have to be underweight or with protruding bones to have an eating disorder because it's a mental illness with physical consequences. Your behaviour does sound typical of an ED because you derive pleasure from continually losing weight and it's never enough for you. When I was first diagnosed with anorexia, it was 'atypical anorexia' because my BMI was still healthy but my mind showed all the typical traits of someone with anorexia and that could very well be the case for you. Please see a doctor because it's so easy for this to get out of hand. x
Original post by sentiment
at my uni you can apply for mitigating circumstances which mean you can essentially resit the exam at a later date (like you would normally if you just failed for whatever reason) only it counts as your first time taking it so you're able to retake AGAIN if you need to. does that make sense? so you do it as if it were a retake, but it officially only counts as your first attempt. not sure if that helps, but don't be afraid to ask for support. i'm currently trying to wrangle all the extra time i can out of my department for essays because of eating problems, they're there to help you!


Thank you :smile: I really don't know whether it's for the best to retake or not; but the state I'm in now is not going to get me the First that I'm aiming for. Unsure whether to get it out of the way because I just know it'll only be a repeat of the same situation in June x

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Original post by jazzykinks
You don't have to be underweight or with protruding bones to have an eating disorder because it's a mental illness with physical consequences. Your behaviour does sound typical of an ED because you derive pleasure from continually losing weight and it's never enough for you. When I was first diagnosed with anorexia, it was 'atypical anorexia' because my BMI was still healthy but my mind showed all the typical traits of someone with anorexia and that could very well be the case for you. Please see a doctor because it's so easy for this to get out of hand. x


I went to see a doctor today I wrote down literally every thing I've wrote here. I'm being referred to counselling once again and I have to have a blood test on monday. I feel like I've taken the first step to getting better, hopefully
Original post by iJess
I went to see a doctor today I wrote down literally every thing I've wrote here. I'm being referred to counselling once again and I have to have a blood test on monday. I feel like I've taken the first step to getting better, hopefully


Wish you all the best. xx
I have an assessment tomorrow to go to an inpatient adolescent unit for my ED and SH :/ Super scared! Part of me is positive and hoping I'll be able to get on track and actually get my life back, and the other part wants to run the opposite direction. I still have the feeling that I'm not actually ill enough, and that them forcing me to eat will only make things worse. But I know I have to tackle it now or I'll just end up sectioned soon anyway. Ughhhhh this sucks I wish I'd never gotten this stupid illness.
Original post by Nooshkabob
I have an assessment tomorrow to go to an inpatient adolescent unit for my ED and SH :/ Super scared! Part of me is positive and hoping I'll be able to get on track and actually get my life back, and the other part wants to run the opposite direction. I still have the feeling that I'm not actually ill enough, and that them forcing me to eat will only make things worse. But I know I have to tackle it now or I'll just end up sectioned soon anyway. Ughhhhh this sucks I wish I'd never gotten this stupid illness.


Hey Noosh :hugs: It'll be good for you to go. It's normal to feel apprehensive - it's a massive life decision - but in the long run it's the best thing to do. However it'll only work if you let it; so to give it the best shot you have to really try. You're a very intelligent girl and you deserve to live a happy life free from this ****ty illness that just wants to rob you of everything you have. Remain positive.

Best of luck gorgeous, you'll be ok. :hugs:
Original post by iJess
Just hoping someone might be able to help me here. I haven't eaten right in a while. My nana came up tonight to talk to me and said she thinks I have an eating disorder and that it's not my fault. I starve myself I started getting stomach problems a while back and I had depression and doctors put it down to stress. Since around September I haven't been eating meals at college I save the money. I can't eat in public, I barely eat at all. I thought it was problems with my stomach but now I think I might have a problem mentally instead of a physical problem. I always feel full and sick. I never feel hungry and I don't even get the hunger pains anymore.

I used to be fatter and I got depressed but by not eating I feel like I have power because only I can control it. I only eat tiny tiny amounts of food. I weigh myself constantly but since a few days ago the scales have gone missing and I think my nana has taken it away if she feels I have an eating disorder. I got confused because I thought people with their bones sticking out had an eating disorder. Since september I've been starving myself and eating less food weighing myself constantly I'd be really happy if I'd lost weight but upset if I'd put any on. Even when I reached my goals I kept wanting to lose more and more. Even after eating small amounts I have the urge to be sick and feel really guilty about putting calories and fat in to my body. I thought I couldn't have an eating disorder if I was a healthy weight. I've gone from 11 stone 9 pounds to 9 stone something when I last checked, nearly 8 stone. I never have an appetite any more, even though I used to stuff my face with food. I can't do that anymore cos my stomach and mind don't seem to want food. I don't want to eat but I feel tired and dizzy all the time. I feel like I really am fighting and getting worse and if I don't get help it's going to spiral out of control. I do wish I could go back to how I was eating normally. Does this sound like an eating disorder? I am thinking of seeing a doctor but don't know if I'll be taken seriously as I'm still a healthy weight for my height (5 ft 6)


This absolutely is a problem and well done for going to the doctor today. Keep us posted here on what's going on; it's not an easy place to get out of but well done on taking your first steps towards doing something about it!
Recognizing the problem and deciding to take actions= first positive move towards recovery x
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Original post by x-Disenchanted-x
This absolutely is a problem and well done for going to the doctor today. Keep us posted here on what's going on; it's not an easy place to get out of but well done on taking your first steps towards doing something about it!
Recognizing the problem and deciding to take actions= first positive move towards recovery x


Nope its really hard I've been trying to stop calorie counting but it's a habit I just want to get better I even tried to force myself to eat some crisps but I just feel sick and guilty. I feel really low and such a failure that I can't even manage one packet of crisps. Why is my body like this when I want to be back how I was?
Hope someone actually answers me this time rather than avoid it!

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Original post by drbluebox
Hope someone actually answers me this time rather than avoid it!

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What are you actually asking here?

It sounds like your irregular eating habits have you in a binge/restrict cycle, if you eat regular healthy meals in about a week you'll probably find you no longer eat in the same irregular manner.

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