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c4 integrating ln(x+2) by parts

integrate ln(x+2) by parts
my working: u=lnx+2 du/dx =1/x+2, dv/dx=1 v=1 woops meant x
this makes
xln(x+2)-integral of x/x+2
i got xln(x+2)-x+0.25x2+c

however in the mark scheme it says this
(x+2)ln(x+2)x+k(x+2) \ln(x+2) -x + k
is my answer the same? and if it is would i be awared the full marks
(edited 11 years ago)
Reply 1
Original post by printergirl
integrate ln(x+2) by parts
my working: u=lnx+2 du/dx =1/x+2, dv/dx=1 v=1
this makes
xln(x+2)-integral of x/x+2
i got xln(x+2)-x+0.25x2+c

however in the mark scheme it says this
(x+2)ln(x+2)x+k(x+2) \ln(x+2) -x + k
is my answer the same? and if it is would i be awared the full marks


"dv/dx=1 v=1"

This is wrong. If DV/DX = 1, v = X.
Reply 2
Original post by Enginerd.
"dv/dx=1 v=1"

This is wrong. If DV/DX = 1, v = X.


thats a typo:colondollar: i used v=x in my workings
Reply 3
also can someone help me with this question
5ii, how did they get root 13
http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/attachment.php?attachmentid=159039&d=1340294617
Reply 4
Did you seriously divide x/x+2 into x/x + x/2? :eek:

Use substitution u=x+2
Reply 5
Original post by printergirl
integrate ln(x+2) by parts
my working: u=lnx+2 du/dx =1/x+2, dv/dx=1 v=1 woops meant x
this makes
xln(x+2)-integral of x/x+2
i got xln(x+2)-x+0.25x2+c

however in the mark scheme it says this
(x+2)ln(x+2)x+k(x+2) \ln(x+2) -x + k
is my answer the same? and if it is would i be awared the full marks


Why would

xx+2dx\int \dfrac{x}{x+2} dx = x+x24-x + \dfrac{x^2}{4}
Reply 6
Original post by GeneralOJB
Did you seriously divide x/x+2 into x/x + x/2? :eek:

Use substitution u=x+2


can you not do that?? edit oh i c:colondollar:best made now than in the exam

can any1 do question 5ii, how did they get root 13
http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/atta...9&d=1340294617


how do you split x/x+2
(edited 11 years ago)
Reply 7
Original post by GeneralOJB
Did you seriously divide x/x+2 into x/x + x/2?


Good spot

They had me baffled with that one
Reply 8
Original post by printergirl
can you not do that??


How would you think that you can?
Reply 9
Original post by TenOfThem
How would you think that you can?


:cry::cry2: how do i split it?
Original post by printergirl
...


No need for the neg
It was a serious question

I was trying to find out what your misconception was
Original post by printergirl
:cry::cry2: how do i split it?


You can't

Well, you can but you need to either use substitution or

(my preference)

xx+2=x+22x+2=x+2x+22x+2=12x+2\dfrac{x}{x+2} = \dfrac{x+2-2}{x+2} = \dfrac{x+2}{x+2} - \dfrac{2}{x+2} = 1 - \dfrac{2}{x+2}

Giving something that you can integrate

You can split the denominator but not the numerator
Reply 12
Original post by TenOfThem
No need for the neg
It was a serious question

I was trying to find out what your misconception was


u seemed very rude

how do i split x/x+2 ????
Original post by printergirl
u seemed very rude

how do i split x/x+2 ????


so do you

I have answered your question, there was no need to repeat

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