FSMQ, at GCSE?
Okay, so in 6months I'll be going to Sixth form to do Further Maths, Biology and Chemistry. I finished my Maths at the last resit, so I did not sit the two exams which happened on Monday and Friday, and I wondering. Since i have about 6 months where I cannot drop Maths as I am going to continue and do it in college, what should I do? My friend in another part of England mentioned that he is doing an FSMQ, which is an A Level equivalent?
I finished my English last year along with several other subjects such as ICT, PSHCE and Music BTEC, which leaves me with around 8 hours free lessons where I don't actually have to go into school. If we include Maths in this, I usually have 4 maths lessons a week, that's 12 hours of complete free time in a 30 hour class schedule. So I was wondering if it plausible to ask about this FSMQ? I'm not sure how it works, I've checked on AQA and all it mentions is an Intermediate and Advanced levels and descriptions so if anybody is familiar with it then I'd really appreciate the help!
PS - I resat my Maths once, the first I got an A, I recieved 145/200 and resat and got 180/200, so I was extremely happy with this! I just don't want to waste any time, so if this is a good or bad idea, input is extremely appreciated!
I finished my English last year along with several other subjects such as ICT, PSHCE and Music BTEC, which leaves me with around 8 hours free lessons where I don't actually have to go into school. If we include Maths in this, I usually have 4 maths lessons a week, that's 12 hours of complete free time in a 30 hour class schedule. So I was wondering if it plausible to ask about this FSMQ? I'm not sure how it works, I've checked on AQA and all it mentions is an Intermediate and Advanced levels and descriptions so if anybody is familiar with it then I'd really appreciate the help!
PS - I resat my Maths once, the first I got an A, I recieved 145/200 and resat and got 180/200, so I was extremely happy with this! I just don't want to waste any time, so if this is a good or bad idea, input is extremely appreciated!
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FSMQ isn't equivalent to an A level, but it's like between GCSE and A Level.
I did it, and I think it's really worthwhile to do - you get UCAS points which is good if you get a Uni offer in points, so may lower what you need at A level.
Also, even if you get a U in additional maths(FSMQ), it will still help you at A level, because you will have met most of the AS Level syllabus in the FSMQ
I did it, and I think it's really worthwhile to do - you get UCAS points which is good if you get a Uni offer in points, so may lower what you need at A level.
Also, even if you get a U in additional maths(FSMQ), it will still help you at A level, because you will have met most of the AS Level syllabus in the FSMQ
Original post by LRJ
FSMQ isn't equivalent to an A level, but it's like between GCSE and A Level.
I did it, and I think it's really worthwhile to do - you get UCAS points which is good if you get a Uni offer in points, so may lower what you need at A level.
Also, even if you get a U in additional maths(FSMQ), it will still help you at A level, because you will have met most of the AS Level syllabus in the FSMQ
I did it, and I think it's really worthwhile to do - you get UCAS points which is good if you get a Uni offer in points, so may lower what you need at A level.
Also, even if you get a U in additional maths(FSMQ), it will still help you at A level, because you will have met most of the AS Level syllabus in the FSMQ
I've been searching for about 2 hours and I can only get information on it's content, which isn't very helpful to me at this point
. Do you think it possible for my teacher to get access to it? Also, is there a Time-frame for when the course has to be completed, I just need as much information as I can get so that I can go to my teacher tomorrow and ask . Another question, can any school do it? We're a "Maths and Science" specialist school but to be honest that's just a title, if anything we have less opportunities in Maths than other schools :/Original post by Eskyy
I've been searching for about 2 hours and I can only get information on it's content, which isn't very helpful to me at this point . Do you think it possible for my teacher to get access to it? Also, is there a Time-frame for when the course has to be completed, I just need as much information as I can get so that I can go to my teacher tomorrow and ask . Another question, can any school do it? We're a "Maths and Science" specialist school but to be honest that's just a title, if anything we have less opportunities in Maths than other schools :/
. Do you think it possible for my teacher to get access to it? Also, is there a Time-frame for when the course has to be completed, I just need as much information as I can get so that I can go to my teacher tomorrow and ask . Another question, can any school do it? We're a "Maths and Science" specialist school but to be honest that's just a title, if anything we have less opportunities in Maths than other schools :/There is no time limit as I did it in <6 months. It might seem hard but I can assure you, it is immensely useful.
Original post by Eskyy
I've been searching for about 2 hours and I can only get information on it's content, which isn't very helpful to me at this point . Do you think it possible for my teacher to get access to it? Also, is there a Time-frame for when the course has to be completed, I just need as much information as I can get so that I can go to my teacher tomorrow and ask . Another question, can any school do it? We're a "Maths and Science" specialist school but to be honest that's just a title, if anything we have less opportunities in Maths than other schools :/
. Do you think it possible for my teacher to get access to it? Also, is there a Time-frame for when the course has to be completed, I just need as much information as I can get so that I can go to my teacher tomorrow and ask . Another question, can any school do it? We're a "Maths and Science" specialist school but to be honest that's just a title, if anything we have less opportunities in Maths than other schools :/Here is the info for the AQA FSMQ http://store.aqa.org.uk/qual/pdf/AQA-4350-4981-4988-W-GUIDE.PDF -says 60 hours of guided learning
I did the OCR MEI one: http://www.ocr.org.uk/images/76669-specification.pdf I personally think it's more useful by looking at each specification, but then again I haven't done the AQA one
Your teachers/exams officer would have to consent for you to sit the exam. Is your school part of a 6th form college? If so they might be able to teach the FSMQ because it's content overlaps with A level. Would you be willing to self-teach? Might be tricky
Original post by LRJ
Here is the info for the AQA FSMQ http://store.aqa.org.uk/qual/pdf/AQA-4350-4981-4988-W-GUIDE.PDF -says 60 hours of guided learning
I did the OCR MEI one: http://www.ocr.org.uk/images/76669-specification.pdf I personally think it's more useful by looking at each specification, but then again I haven't done the AQA one
Your teachers/exams officer would have to consent for you to sit the exam. Is your school part of a 6th form college? If so they might be able to teach the FSMQ because it's content overlaps with A level. Would you be willing to self-teach? Might be tricky
I did the OCR MEI one: http://www.ocr.org.uk/images/76669-specification.pdf I personally think it's more useful by looking at each specification, but then again I haven't done the AQA one
Your teachers/exams officer would have to consent for you to sit the exam. Is your school part of a 6th form college? If so they might be able to teach the FSMQ because it's content overlaps with A level. Would you be willing to self-teach? Might be tricky
I self-taught myself Integration, Differentiation and Integration by Parts. I also studied an immense amount of information regarding graphs and solving equations from them. I was aided by my teacher, I was also taught polynomial division and finding the point where a curve and a line intersect each other, given their equations. I can work it out, I'm sending my maths teacher an E-mail now, we have just under 5 months until we break up for summer so I really hope it's possible! But my school only goes to Year 11, the closest Sixth Form is around 2 miles away in the Town
Original post by Eskyy
I self-taught myself Integration, Differentiation and Integration by Parts. I also studied an immense amount of information regarding graphs and solving equations from them. I was aided by my teacher, I was also taught polynomial division and finding the point where a curve and a line intersect each other, given their equations. I can work it out, I'm sending my maths teacher an E-mail now, we have just under 5 months until we break up for summer so I really hope it's possible! But my school only goes to Year 11, the closest Sixth Form is around 2 miles away in the Town
Most of those things are in the OCR MEI FSMQ
the only other thing that comes to mind is a bit of SUVAT equations (physicsy-mechanics stuff), some algebra, and coordinate geometry which should be no problem for you.Intergration By Parts is C3 stuff
You're well ahead xDGood luck with your teacher
You should be able to do it, especially as you've covered most of the spec 
Original post by LRJ
Most of those things are in the OCR MEI FSMQ the only other thing that comes to mind is a bit of SUVAT equations (physicsy-mechanics stuff), some algebra, and coordinate geometry which should be no problem for you.
Intergration By Parts is C3 stuff You're well ahead xD
Good luck with your teacher You should be able to do it, especially as you've covered most of the spec
the only other thing that comes to mind is a bit of SUVAT equations (physicsy-mechanics stuff), some algebra, and coordinate geometry which should be no problem for you.Intergration By Parts is C3 stuff
You're well ahead xDGood luck with your teacher
You should be able to do it, especially as you've covered most of the spec Thank you for all your help!
I sent my Maths teacher a lengthy E-mail on the school accounts to try and get an answer before tomorrow, however I plan to discuss it in-person at 8, before school starters tomorrow . I hope it is possible, but I fear that I'll be the only one doing it, there is only one other person my year who got an A* and she's dropped subjects due to stress and because she wants to concentrate on her History (which I've been told is extremely revision-based work). So do you think it would be possible with just one student? :/Original post by LRJ
I'm not sure, but it would definitely speed up the learning process by being 1 on 1
I wondered is 20 UCAS points a lot? I understand that Cambridge (Used as an example due to it's high entry standards) requires students to have around 360 points? Changing depending on chosen course and other factors. Oh an also, could you check to see the deadline for entry to it? I believe it do be on the 21st of March according to the OCR website, but I'm unsure if this applies to FSMQ.
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Original post by Eskyy
I wondered is 20 UCAS points a lot? I understand that Cambridge (Used as an example due to it's high entry standards) requires students to have around 360 points? Changing depending on chosen course and other factors. Oh an also, could you check to see the deadline for entry to it? I believe it do be on the 21st of March according to the OCR website, but I'm unsure if this applies to FSMQ.
20 UCAS points isn't a lot on it's own, but it can mean that instead of needing 360 points (AAA) you would only need 340 (AAB), (this is providing that the Uni accepts the FSMQ, and also that the offer is in points not grades - Cambridge, and most of the top unis all use the grades system, so the points from the FSMQ would be irrelevant in that case).
Are you considering to do AQA of OCR MEI?
The deadline shouldn't be for at least a week or two, presuming the entry has the same deadline as A Levels Don't quote me on that though xDOriginal post by LRJ
20 UCAS points isn't a lot on it's own, but it can mean that instead of needing 360 points (AAA) you would only need 340 (AAB), (this is providing that the Uni accepts the FSMQ, and also that the offer is in points not grades - Cambridge, and most of the top unis all use the grades system, so the points from the FSMQ would be irrelevant in that case).
Are you considering to do AQA of OCR MEI? The deadline shouldn't be for at least a week or two, presuming the entry has the same deadline as A Levels Don't quote me on that though xD
Are you considering to do AQA of OCR MEI?
The deadline shouldn't be for at least a week or two, presuming the entry has the same deadline as A Levels Don't quote me on that though xDI just hope the deadline hasn't passed D:! I would probably die, but I'm not sure, could you highlight the main differences between the two exam boards? I understand OCR is for my ICT and AQA for my science results but other than that I don't actually know^^
Original post by Eskyy
I just hope the deadline hasn't passed D:! I would probably die, but I'm not sure, could you highlight the main differences between the two exam boards? I understand OCR is for my ICT and AQA for my science results but other than that I don't actually know^^
OCR:
The content consists of four areas of Pure Mathematics:
• Algebra;
• Co-ordinate Geometry;
• Trigonometry;
• Calculus.
-this is from their website
AQA (in a file below, also from their own website)
It seems to be set out in a more complicated way, and not very pure maths related in comparison - so may not help very much for next year.
I'd ask your friend about what exam board they did, or ask what everyone did on here
Original post by LRJ
OCR:
The content consists of four areas of Pure Mathematics:
• Algebra;
• Co-ordinate Geometry;
• Trigonometry;
• Calculus.
-this is from their website
AQA (in a file below, also from their own website)
It seems to be set out in a more complicated way, and not very pure maths related in comparison - so may not help very much for next year.
I'd ask your friend about what exam board they did, or ask what everyone did on here
The content consists of four areas of Pure Mathematics:
• Algebra;
• Co-ordinate Geometry;
• Trigonometry;
• Calculus.
-this is from their website
AQA (in a file below, also from their own website)
It seems to be set out in a more complicated way, and not very pure maths related in comparison - so may not help very much for next year.
I'd ask your friend about what exam board they did, or ask what everyone did on here
Well if both give the same qualification, then I will try and discuss it with my teacher, but from what I've seen regarding the specifications and such, I would prefer the OCR MEI spec. As it appears to be more Pure Maths orientated as you mentioned, so I feel like this would be more beneficial for when I do the Pure Mathematics Units at A Level ?
Original post by Eskyy
Well if both give the same qualification, then I will try and discuss it with my teacher, but from what I've seen regarding the specifications and such, I would prefer the OCR MEI spec. As it appears to be more Pure Maths orientated as you mentioned, so I feel like this would be more beneficial for when I do the Pure Mathematics Units at A Level ?
Yeah, it would be very beneficial to do the OCR MEI one
You cover Trig and Calculus in C2, M1, C3, C4, and probably some further maths modules too, so setting the foundations will really help Coordinate Geometry in C1 and Algebra throughout A level Maths.So none of the learning goes to waste really
It will depend what exam board you are on for Maths & F.Maths at college, but they're all really similar Original post by LRJ
Yeah, it would be very beneficial to do the OCR MEI one You cover Trig and Calculus in C2, M1, C3, C4, and probably some further maths modules too, so setting the foundations will really help Coordinate Geometry in C1 and Algebra throughout A level Maths.
So none of the learning goes to waste really It will depend what exam board you are on for Maths & F.Maths at college, but they're all really similar
You cover Trig and Calculus in C2, M1, C3, C4, and probably some further maths modules too, so setting the foundations will really help Coordinate Geometry in C1 and Algebra throughout A level Maths.So none of the learning goes to waste really
It will depend what exam board you are on for Maths & F.Maths at college, but they're all really similar So either way, regardless of the exam board, the content is mostly similar and they will have a similar benefit to future Maths?
Original post by Eskyy
So either way, regardless of the exam board, the content is mostly similar and they will have a similar benefit to future Maths?
Yes
Good luck with it all I'm sure you'll be fineOriginal post by LRJ
Yes Good luck with it all I'm sure you'll be fine
Good luck with it all I'm sure you'll be fineThank you
! I fear that my Teacher won't check his E-mail, so I will have to go into school a bit earlier and have a serious conversation about it, do you think this will help on applications aswell? Or will it just be seen as an extra 20 UCAS points? 
Original post by Eskyy
Thank you ! I fear that my Teacher won't check his E-mail, so I will have to go into school a bit earlier and have a serious conversation about it, do you think this will help on applications aswell? Or will it just be seen as an extra 20 UCAS points?
! I fear that my Teacher won't check his E-mail, so I will have to go into school a bit earlier and have a serious conversation about it, do you think this will help on applications aswell? Or will it just be seen as an extra 20 UCAS points? For applications to universities, I doubt it will put you ahead of other applicants because the main things unis look for are your predicted grades at A Level and your AS results. Although when unis have to decide between very similar candidates they may look at other qualifications and achievements
That's quite unlikely though xDI got a C on the FSMQ, 13 UCAS points
Better than a U!Original post by LRJ
For applications to universities, I doubt it will put you ahead of other applicants because the main things unis look for are your predicted grades at A Level and your AS results. Although when unis have to decide between very similar candidates they may look at other qualifications and achievements That's quite unlikely though xD
I got a C on the FSMQ, 13 UCAS points Better than a U!
That's quite unlikely though xDI got a C on the FSMQ, 13 UCAS points
Better than a U!I thought you said "I Got a C on the FSMQ [...] Better than U", I needed to re-read it a few times
was it extremely difficult? Did you think you could've done better if you revised more or worked harder, or was that the best you could do? Because I'm not sure about difficulty and probably won't be until I do it myself Quick Reply
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