Why are Muslim's portrayed as terrorist's in today's society?

The USA has killed very very few innocent people in the Middle East. The USA is helping stabilize the Middle East. They should be thanking us, not killing us. They need to stop killing innocent Americans.

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Well I can certainly see why you have so many red gems. You are extremely naive and ignorant and mindless. It is clear to even a fool that the USA is not stabilizing the Middle East and that they have killed many innocent people!

Wow. Drones kill 50 innocent people for every 1 terrorist killed. These drones have been the silent warfare of the USA against the middle east for the past decade and are operating right now all over the place.

"They need to stop killing innocent Americans." When was the last time that happened? An extremely ignorant post imo, wake up, the media has you on smash.

You are saying that because you are biased against the USA. You may think I am mindless, but I don't want my country and my way of life being destroyed by Muslim terrorists.

Not really, what is apparent from this thread is simply that moslems here will ignore what is meeting the eye and what is not. largely they are defending actions of terrorists and islamists, purely on some twisted form of loyalty, instead of condemning them as the rest of the planet does. hence the reputation in the media etc. if it were non moslem terrorists doing these same crimes, they would denounce. but they cannot denounce other moslems or anything islamic, whether it is terorsim or not- becuase of these wraped world view. It is proven by reponses in this thread, people are trying to claim a false moral superiority in all current wars and conflicts moslems are invloved in around the world (and there are a lot). However in most cases none of it is reality and you cannot fool me. I have not claimed USA is perfect - but your default position is you would rather condemn the usa than a terorrist who attacks people whilst shouting some chant from the koran - this is a wrong and illogical view on world events.

Succession of caliphs was by violence and conquest- islam has had arab caliph, sassanid ( persian) mughal, ottman turk etc etc ie strongest warlord of the time gets to become caliph, It is not a solution to islamist terroirsm, if anything its as violent

But they don't want you trampling on their way of life and trying to force through "democracy" and replace regimes which you feel to be anti-Western.

You didn't address the civil wars in Africa, particularly Nigeria and Sudan where there are huge divisions by religion. Somalia in particular is ruled by Sharia and has no tolerance for others to the extent that non Muslims are raped and killed.

The Zoroastrians were also drove out of their country of Iran due to Islamic conquest. You think they're bad too?

Israel has a right to exist as the land never belonged to Palestinians in the first place; it belonged to the Empires in charge of Jordan which in turn agreeed to partition off a piece of land for the Jews (who were quite populous to begin with, increasing emigration since the 1800s). The 1948 war was initiated by the Arab states of Syria and Egypt to help Palestine; the same thing happened during the Yom Kippur War (other Arab states also helped but it was normally Syria and Egypt doing the bulk of the aggression). Israeli emigration was increasing long before WWII and because there were 'too many', the Arabs iniated a war to try and cut down the numbers of Jews.

The nation of HINDUstan consisted of India,Pakistan and Bangladesh but like today, there is a huge degree of appeasement to Muslims even though, like back before partition, they were a minority.

Many Kashmiris want to be back with India. Kashmir was ruled by a Hindu Indian and only joined India due to Pakistan invading. True that some want to be part of Pakistan but that again is based on religion. The King of Kashmir was a Hindu and only joined India as Pakistan attacked Kashmir.

Bangladesh is racist and has taken away 40-75% of Hindu land and given it to Muslims. They are ungrateful for India fighting for them. 98% of Bangladeshi women who were raped were Hindu and since partition, Bangladesh's Hindu population has halved.

Pakistan's Hindu population has gone from over 20% since partition to under 2% today. Pakistan is racist toward Hindus in its media and is prejudice to Hindus, even giving them problems for pilgrimage purposes. Pakistan was responsible for the Taliban ruining Afghanistan as the Taliban came from there. Ahmed Shah Masoud, ally to the West, forwarned 9/11 and knew Pakistan's dealings in Afghanistan and knew Al Qaeda had struck an allegiance with the Taliban. Afghanistan has good friendship with the USA and India, even though India helped the Soviets. Why? Because Afghans and Indians dislike Pakistan and the only reason Karzai wants to keep Pakistan happy is because a fair amount of the population still likes Pakistan and they want to stay neutral (whether the population likes Taliban and Pakistan is irrelevant, the majority were against them when they were in power). Ahmed Shah Masoud was a friend and a true warrior, and he was Muslim so no hatred for Islam on my part!

Hiroshima was not a war crime as the Japanese would not have surrendered otherwise. It was not specifically an attack on civilians like 9/11 was.
World War II was an aggressive expansion of a nation; it differed to conventional Imperialism as it was based on hatred of certain groups. Not to mention alliances were drawn up at that point as opposed to informal alliances during colonisation (they were basically tribes with no identity)
Japan has one of the best economies in the World thanks to the USA helping them after defeat. Colonisation increased healthcare and education, India is on course to become one of the three biggest world economies.

Libya was not an illegal war as the UN approved it and there was no 'against' votes; Gaddafi literally bombed the hell out of protestors and was responsible for wars on Chad and Egypt while creating an extremely censored police state. Gaddafi's men literally took off oxygen masks from those in hospital.Before the Iraq war he was also against Israel and helping extremists in Palestine.
Assad is responsible for the death of over 50,000 people so Syria needs to have intervention.
Iraq used to have a large Jewish population but Muslims 'took' their land. Does that mean there should be Jewish suicide attacks in Iraq or in other Muslim countries for their support of Iraq? This was back in the late 1800s/early 1900s.For what happened in Israel, the Jews from Arab countries were expelled.
Hamas is a terrorist organisation and launched rockets into civilian areas of Israel due to the death of one of their leaders. Hamas is responsible for terrorist attacks such as the Palestinian bus bombings. Fatah's predecessor, the PLO was responsible for atrocities such as the Munich Massacre and were even kicked out of other Muslim countries (Jordan,Saudi Arabia and Kuwait) due to their aggression. The Intifadas also came from extremists who supported Palestine.

As well as the conflicts with India,Israel,the West and Africa, the man reason Islam is demonised is interpretations of Sharia law; Saudi Arabia, though it is getting better, forbids public practice of other religions and homosexuality under punishment of death. Iran is like this too as well as Somalia (but that's just civil unrest full stop). The more extreme groups require women to cover up completely and bans shorts on men even though in Makkah you're not allowed to be fully covered, proving that Burkha and Niqab are unnecessary and oppressive compared to Hijab.

Why is it that Saudi Arabia,Qatar,Kuwait,Lebanon,JordanUAE,Oman and Bahrain (basically every Arab country except Yemen and Syria) is not anti Israel anymore and are friends with the USA? Only the non Arab Muslims of Iran,Turkey,Pakistan and Bangladesh, and the Arab countries of Yemen and Syria care about the 'plight' of the Palestinians. The majority of Arabs are slowly reducing barriers and boycotts of Israel.

So Islam is not the enemy, it's the non-Arab Muslims that create most problems and those who think it's ok to have suicide bombers and brainwash children.

Because some small-minded people use a minority of radical idiots as a representation of every muslim.

That's why.

One must note which of these were following the teachings of the Quran and sunnah. the Mughals, sassanids, etc. were rulers that lived luxurios lives in palaces, etc. - which is not in compliance with the sunnah. Thus, such people would not be valid examples as an epitome of an Islamic ruler.

fundamental divergence is we (west) beelive in democracy free speech and toelrance- we beleive it to be the best way of life and the fairest. SIalm doesnt have a concept of 'democracy' in fact moslems are told voting is 'haram (bad) and not way of the sunnah. in islam you have a religious commander and he otders and everyone else follows. This is effective a dictactorship, but then this is a system practiced in the middle ages. But moslems are confused know becuase they want to overturn existing dictatorships, for the vote ( which in itself unislamic).islamist terrorists want the caliphate - which is jsut another name for an islamic dictatorship, they also want that calphate to start expanding islamic teritory (which is what the caliphs used to do) However when that dictator goes beserk there is no mechanism for voting him out like in democracy, apart form civil war, whcih permeates througouht islams history.

fundamental divergence is we (west) beelive in democracy free speech and toelrance- we beleive it to be the best way of life and the fairest. SIalm doesnt have a concept of 'democracy' in fact moslems are told voting is 'haram (bad) and not way of the sunnah. in islam you have a religious commander and he otders and everyone else follows. This is effective a dictactorship, but then this is a system practiced in the middle ages. But moslems are confused know becuase they want to overturn existing dictatorships, for the vote ( which in itself unislamic).islamist terrorists want the caliphate - which is jsut another name for an islamic dictatorship, they also want that calphate to start expanding islamic teritory (which is what the caliphs used to do) However when that dictator goes beserk there is no mechanism for voting him out like in democracy, apart form civil war, whcih permeates througouht islams history.

fundamental divergence is we (west) beelive in democracy free speech and toelrance- we beleive it to be the best way of life and the fairest.

SIalm doesnt have a concept of 'democracy' in fact moslems are told voting is 'haram (bad) and not way of the sunnah.

in islam you have a religious commander and he otders and everyone else follows.

This is effective a dictactorship, but then this is a system practiced in the middle ages.

But moslems are confused know becuase they want to overturn existing dictatorships,

for the vote ( which in itself unislamic).

islamist terrorists want the caliphate - which is jsut another name for an islamic dictatorship,

they also want that calphate to start expanding islamic teritory (which is what the caliphs used to do)

However when that dictator goes beserk there is no mechanism for voting him out like in democracy,

apart form civil war, whcih permeates througouht islams history.

It's not propaganda. The USA has done a lot of good in the middle east.

You are saying that because you are biased against the USA. You may think I am mindless, but I don't want my country and my way of life being destroyed by Muslim terrorists.

Where is your evidence that the USA has killed many innocent people. I don't count terrorists as innocent, nor those people who harbor them.

That's BS. Drones are there to protect innocent lives. There aren't even that many drones.

It happened all the time while we had troops in the middle east. It happened recently in Libya when muslims invaded our embassy and they rioted when an American released a movie portraying Prophet Muhammad in a truthful (and unflattering) light. There are too many examples of muslim violence against Americans and the west.

Naivety, yet again.Muslims on TSR, include myself, spend much of their time denouncing such acts and explaining how they contradict Islam's teachings. And we aren't the only ones, countless imams have done so in their talks at the masaajid.And when did I say that terrorism is more moral than the US intervention? Was this another instance in which I used telepathy, by any chance? Or alternatively is it a false assumption on your part?Both are equally as disgusting. The only time I would comply with a so-called 'terrorist' in agreement with the Quran is if he were to fight back at the site of the oppression (eg in Afghanistan) and harm only those responsible for it (ie the army, officials directly concerned with the oppression, etc.). By no means, whatsoever is attack on innocents justifiable.

where did the other caliphs live, in a whole inthe ground? what about ottomans- ever heard of the sultans and their palaces?what do you think that osama bin laden would have lived his whole life in a cave out of choice? where did the amercians find him? in a house worth more than a million dollars surrounded by poverty stirken moslems in paksitan.no moslems stopped the caliphs running islam, in the same way none stop islamists today. That is why USA feels obligated.

Anwar al-Awlaki , Mohamed el Sayed, for a start. Two Saudi Al-quaeda arabia commanders hit just yesterday - there have been countless islamists been blown up by drones in middle east, afganistan and paksitan, clearly you have no clue about. .

Now name just ONE person that an Islamist has killed that wasnt an innocent civilian? Then tell me who is worseYes of course,

]claerly all these places were wonderful beforehand - apart form the fact that muslims in syria, libya etc have begged USA for their military intervention.

Saddam gassed kurds and killed hundred so fthousands- something it seems you dont want to comment on, Islamist terrorists killed more in iraq than any that died in the invasion.

bin laden was found sitting in a million dollar house down the road form the Pakistan Intelligence headquarter. Afgan Talenban pointblank refusd to hand over bin laden after 9-11 attacks and gave him shleter. There is your answer, usa were given no choice. It is this complicity of muslims with terrorism you are now describing that is the reason of islams image in the media is it not.dont go off the topic, is this about islamic terrorism or colonial past?

You dont think islam had its hand in slave trade or colonies too lol, much more than USA? do some reading about it.

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