PGCE - Want to leave teaching...advice please

Sorry, think I hijacked your thread with my rant up there.

Independent schools can employ unqualified teachers, but I think it would be pretty difficult to get in that way. Could you look into maybe working in an independent school in another capacity as an assistant or something, but make clear at all stages that you would be interested in taking up teaching there too?

I heard you don't need any qualification for private teaching but you need experience and references. Can you provide that?

I could try it but I don't know how likely it would be that a job as an assistant in an indie school is available. Would have to have a look around in my area.

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I think this can depend on the school. Yes, every school wants to be 'good' or 'outstanding'. However, both schools I was in I pretty much taught how I wanted to - what was important was that the kids made progress. I actually went to an interview where the Head said it doesn't matter if you don't have a starter or whatever because how boring would it be for the kids if they knew every lesson is a starter, main chunk, plenary?
Yes, some schools are pretty much obsessed with Ofsted and the ever-changing goalposts. However, some are absolutely lovely to work in.
Surely before you started the PGCE you knew that you would have to mark, plan and manage behaviour?
As you are on placement, you just have to do what the school wants. It is actually beneficial if you get used to no PP/textbook (because they are the easiest ways to show something or assess). I am an NQT and I would absolutely use a PP or questions from a textbook if it meant I could assess pupils effectively - whether it was an Ofsted lesson or not.

I'm from another country.
I'm just as you. I also thought that it's interesting to work in education at the start of this year... But now... I'm thinking about joining police, as soon as I get all my documents from the Ministry. Meanwhile I have to work 7 days a week (in education). Except teaching - I need to arrange different activities, make lot's of documents. And the most awful task - to visit all the officials around and make the contracts, which concern educational questions. So I teach 4 days a week (Saturday and Sunday - always), two days I visit the officials, and one day I make the documents. I also have to visit all the educational activities of others and the same time to be in another part of the city, meeting with the officials and so on. Not long ago I found out myself in situation when I had to be in three places the same time and everywhere - in five minute time. It ended up that I could visit two places of three, which I had to.

The same time it's interesting fact that the average policeman earns twice more than I do. And I myself - Criminal Law PhD.

Education to Policeman; that's a big gap
But you've a PhD in Criminal Law, so I don't think it's a problem.
Are the salaries or working hours more hectic? It could be a lot worst, maybe?

Education to Policeman; that's a big gap
But you've a PhD in Criminal Law, so I don't think it's a problem.
Are the salaries or working hours more hectic? It could be a lot worst, maybe?

Otherwise, I finally get someone from TSR and arrange small English language school, travel firm and so on.

Paul you said on that other thread you're looking for an English Native Teacher, send me a personal message if you are serious, I've been looking at going to Russia in the future

I never had any freedom in the teaching, the workload become ridiculous - up at 6am, work until the early hours, - unsustainable when you don't like what you are having to do. I knew about it being difficult but didn't imagine it would be as bad as it was - so bad that I felt the need to discontinue the training.

the ofsted stuff is why this thread has turned into the 'can i get into the indie sector with half a maths pgce' thread!

I wanted to teach about my subject but all the other stuff around it like planning, marking, etc is so dull and not what I want to spend my life doing.

Do you mind me asking what your subject is and where you are based?

I'm planning on starting a post-16 PGCSE myself this year

Maybe finish the PGCE and see how you feel as an NQT? It seems like you got unlucky with the schools you were in.
Workload also gets less as you get better at planning etc.

I have left the PGCE. Became impossible with the workload and I was not enjoying any of it by the end. Wanted to take time out from the course e.g. defer and go back at a later date, but the provider would not allow it. I came to the decision I was never going to be able to carry on so had to leave.

Now looking for something else and I just don't know what I am going to do next.

You could try Teach First. I don't know too much about it, but it seems like you are basically a full teacher once you start in September (or are treated like one anyway) so you might prefer that.

You can train to just teach post-compulsory, altho I don't know whether there is a course for maths

I suppose it would just be like starting again though. I don't have any experince of colleges/sixth form colleges, all my experience has been in secondary schools.

I am in such a mess now that the pgce has not worked out. Wanted to defer and just take time away from it to think about what I really wanted but that option was not available at my provider. I have told them I wish to leave but I wonder whether I should make one last ditch effort to see if they will keep me but defer me. I think it is too late though