Is this the real reason people go to uni?

Doing an applied degree such as nursing and medicine leads you into one career. Careers in arts/social sciences often are done for enjoyment for the person and the value of a degree itself. People who study sociology could go into any number of jobs but could a medical grad?

A lot of employers only look for graduates, despite the fact that they're not necessarily looking for graduates in any particular field, so a lot of these courses are really useful in that regard.

A degree is mostly just a costly signal to let the employer know you are clever and hardworking. It has much more to do with proving your intelligence than learning useful stuff. I do economics and people on my course get some good jobs but the subject isn't relevent to the work, it isn't relevent to any job. Even if you wanted to be a professional economist you still need to do a lot of post grad education before you can actually put it to any use.

See thats my point, thats all its shows, but isnt the aim of the degree to get you into that field or similarly so? What a waste studying something only to realise you cant put it towards something. Btw a degree isnt a sign of intelligence, hard work though.

Philosophy can provide a good foundation for further training/study to become a psychotherapist, socitor/barrister or computer scientist. All of these have some relevance to philosophy (logic for computer science, for example, and analytical skills for psychotherapy).

History is of particular relevance to the Heritage Sector. Many of the jobs in the Heritage Sector may require postgraduate study, but it remains that these aren't jobs a person without a degree can get.

Geography, and some other social sciences, are of particular relevance to town planning, surveying, and those sorts of professions (though they will need to take a professional masters degree).

In terms of graduate jobs, the usual graduate entry schemes across the public, private and voluntary sectors as well as plenty of other roles where a degree (or extensive work experience) is a requirement.

For example, I got an interview for Cancer Research for a job which required "a degree or substantial work experience". I didn't have the substantial work experience, so guess what got me the job?

It remains that at many Russell and 1994 Group universities up to 80% of humanities graduates find a "graduate" job.

However, I also recognise that we are saturated with graduates, especially humanities graduates, relative to the jobs available. But why shouldn't studying something for interest, and if it does lead to something else at a later date all the better? Just because a person's first role is in admin, it does not mean the they can enter a role later and their undergraduate degree acted as a platform.



Why must a philosophy graduate by sceptical about their own sense of reality?

I think a person will have the common sense to realise that, when in a work environment, they should remain focused on their current role and duties.

Doing an applied degree such as nursing and medicine leads you into one career. Careers in arts/social sciences often are done for enjoyment for the person and the value of a degree itself. People who study sociology could go into any number of jobs but could a medical grad?

The first job you mentioned would need extensive study and exp, the rest can be got with exp and no degree.

Doing an applied degree such as nursing and medicine leads you into one career. Careers in arts/social sciences often are done for enjoyment for the person and the value of a degree itself. People who study sociology could go into any number of jobs but could a medical grad?

I went with Economics because I'm equally interested in natural sciences, human sciences and languages and literature with a particular interest in maths - Economics seemed to offer the best of all worlds: Maths, a scientific approach, use of analytical and language skills, use of logic, something related to the real world...

Also, job market wise all I considered was that Economics would enable me to work internationally...

I dout all the grads will get them jobs, Only a tiny minority might with*luck*
And most those jobs you listed need further education masters and experience rs, etc..

same problem I had, espicially as I had many interests, so picking a course wasn't as black and white for me, it wasn't like: I love X and would 100% hate to do other courses. For me, it was more like: I simply prefer X more than other courses in terms of personal interest.

So i had this dilemma:

doing a degree that I enjoy but will most likely lead to a random dull job due to not being able to beat the competition for the few jobs out there which are actually related to my degree


vs


doing a less enjoyable degree but will lead to a more exciting job than that random dull job which I would've most likely ended up if I picked the degree I enjoyed the most

No..
60% of Philosophers from the course that I have an offer for go on to pro/managerial professions after 3 months.

From what I have seen, those who study HR, politics, sociology, psychology, neuroscience,philosophy, forensic science etc. Tend to study for the own personal fulfillment. Because in reality there are no jobs, for these courses. and if there ARE the jobmarket is so tiny that only the top notch people get them.

Whereas courses like, dental technology, nursing, medicine, accounting, teaching, special education, computer science, are job specific, so grads know where they are going with them in life.

I feel like that and I know its true. I personally put in a application for psychology and biology,bcos I like the subjects, but LIKING them isnt enough I guess, but I am gonna leave it, and do a proper course, cos in relality the above courses dont get YOU jobs!

What do you guys think about this? IS it so?

So which option did you go with?