How far do you agree with beauty in a woman is a prerequisite?

Why and how?



So you would judge me as pathetic because I am so ugly?

I don't think I place enough emphasis.

I'm not sure why I'm bothering seeing as you've been posting the same drivel for years and you just don't listen.

You have serious self-esteem / insecurity issues which you should get help with.
You have an unhealthy obsession with looks, whether you are ugly or not I don't know. I've never seen you. You also seem to think that your self worth comes from how many guys find you attractive.

I can see you becoming one of those girls that sleeps are around not for your own enjoyment, but to get confirmation that someone finds you attractive. Seen it happen too many times.

Going to the OP, I'm actually quite a shallow person. I do seem to judge people based on looks. Having a quick look, most of my female friends are attractive.

But no, I do not hate ugly people. If you have a good personality then it should be irrelevant how you look. (Friendship wise)

Also, you keep mentioning the importance of looks for men. When I highly doubt you would go for a guy who us ugly. But as said countless time, looks are subjective. Yes there's usually somewhat of a consensus of physical attraction, but that's not the entirety of a persons attractiveness.

Like you keep talking about guys who you can never have. Maybe stop going for these guys, accept your ranking and low your standards. If you don't want to then fine, don't. But you'll be single for a long time.

Like the girl I'm seeing atm, was shocked that I liked her. She didn't see herself as very attractive when if fact she's beautiful and had me up on some pedestal. Tbf, I am a sexy sexy man. Lol j/k.



But seriously, you've made so many of these threads and you never listen.

Assuming that you are ugly you only have two options really:

1) Accept that you're ugly, stop comparing yourself to other people and get on with your life.

2) Continue this path which I assure you will only lead to deep mental health problems.

P.S You can PM me a pic of yourself and I will give you my opinion of you/ try and give tips etc. If you want to anyway.

W.E

Peace out.

'Ugly girls' are the new 'nice guys'....

Being attrative can make a big difference to a person life, but thier is so much more to life then relationships and lack of a relationship does not make life dull or worthless its imporatatnt to appreciate what you have and what you can do. By the post you've made on this forum its likly that your a healthy intelligent young women who could do so much in life andf leed a life of so much happioness. You could become a millionaire, a leading acdemic etc. You could even have a family one day.

Please dont make the mistake that i've have I joined this form when i was 16 around 4 years ago as a result i've been so depresses about my looks to the point whwre its destroyed many of my acadeic asperations, beacuse TSR a forum of healthy middle class teenagers is obviously my nature of it demographic project the idea that looks are increadimbly imporant ( they are imporanrat but not ear as impoarant as its potrayed on this forum).

Speaking from experience my advise would be to leave this formum permentatnly ( dont come bace even for academic advise), and focuos on what you can control, you cant to much about yuour looks but lamenting over your lack of attartiveness only makes things worse.

I don't judge people on the basis of looks. Men or women.

Dat insecurity.

If you don't like the way you look, why not do something about it? And don't say that it won't change anything because I know, from experience, that it does. I used to be called 'Ursula' (the sea witch from the Little Mermaid) and 'hideous'/'gross' by a lot of people in my school when I was younger. And yes, it hurt, but it only made me want to shove it right back in their faces. Nowadays, I work part-time as a model/performer. The ones who used to be mean to me all shut up - several even attempted to ask me out.

I didn't go through any plastic surgery. I just went through the 'braces' phase until I got them removed, changed my glasses for contact lenses, ate a lot more healthily & exercised a whole lot more, learnt how to put on some make up, learnt how to dress better, cut my hair, started using proper face-cleansing products, improved my posture, etc. It was undoubtedly a long process, but if you don't let your self-esteem fall and you don't give up, you'll eventually see results and feel a lot more confident in your own skin.

My experience taught me a few things: 1) People DO judge others by their looks (but it's not the ONLY thing they'll base their judgement on). 2) You can ALWAYS make improvements to your appearance. And... 3) If looks is ALL a person sees in you, and it is all that matters to them, then they're not worth your time anyways.

I'm not sure why I'm bothering seeing as you've been posting the same drivel for years and you just don't listen.

You have serious self-esteem / insecurity issues which you should get help with.
You have an unhealthy obsession with looks, whether you are ugly or not I don't know. I've never seen you. You also seem to think that your self worth comes from how many guys find you attractive.

There is no ugly woman only lazy women

Beauty is objective up to a point. What that means is that a woman can be a 10 to one man and an 8 to another, but she is unlikely to be less than a 5. So if we're not counting fetishes or very specific preferences, I'd say a woman can generally vary around 3 points from one man to another. IME, a 'traditionally' attractive woman (swimsuit model style) will be between 7-9.
A woman's number is never definite though. A woman who's an 8+ does a LOT to maintain that, and most women can certainly change their efforts to increase several points. Not everybody can be an 8 or more, but most women can tone up and make efforts with their hair/makeup.

Are men visual? Yes. Being good looking does not guarantee happiness, but the general rule is that your looks attract a man, your personality will make him stay.
In terms of what is attractive, I consider that obvious. Clear, glowing skin, symmetrical features, full lips, big eyes, small nose. A slim body with some curves. Long, full and shiny hair. Looks which signalize fertility and are feminine.
Men will try to get a woman who's as beautiful as they can, or at least what they think they deserve. They will choose a woman who's 1 or 2 points lower if she has a much better personality, but they won't go way lower than their potential.
So, what are women to do? Become as attractive as you can be, have a positive and lovely personality, aim for the right guys.

100%. Not everybody can be a 9 or a 10, obviously, but nobody's "sentenced" to be a 3.

Oh yes it does.

They are if they have disgusting features, like me.

How on earth would you know if you are naturally "ugly" as you say?

I know far too many beautiful and miserable people. I would be rated in the upper end of the scale as well, and I've had my share of depression.

Because I know that if I were beautiful, I would be happy.

No, you don't. It's a hypothetical situation. It is the same as someone saying they'd be happy if they were rich. And they're wrong.

Yes I do know. Beauty is a prerequisite to happiness.

What about those so-called "natural beauties" who don't need anything and yet are so beautiful?

I'm not insecure. I'm secure in the knowledge that I'm ugly. I'm not one of those girls that cries every night because they're ugly. I accept that I'm ugly. I'm just pissed off that's the way I am.

Because I know that if I were beautiful, I would be happy.