North Dakota has banned abortions

Some girl in my school didnt bother with contraception and aborted her baby, then still couldnt be bothered to go to a doctor and sort herself out, got pregnant with triplets and aborted all of them. People like that disgust me.

To me exceptional circumstances entail where the pregnant mother was not consenting (i.e. rape), the health of the mother is in doubt, or there is doubt that the child will be born into a stable home.

But the latter doesn't mean it should be killed. There are plenty of couples who would like a child. So I find it deplorable that people view abortion so liberally and with great insensitivity, i.e., "my body, my choice, ain't no-one else's business, I do what I like!" which is all well and good until there is a life. You wouldn't kill your neighbour, so why is this any different?

However if there literally isn't any choice, then fair enough. RIP, little fella.

This kind of thing should be very strongly discouraged, but still allowed. But she should have had compulsory appointments made for family planning etc. but she shouldn't have been made to have the children.

She needs a trip to the prison cell.

This kind of thing should be very strongly discouraged, but still allowed. But she should have had compulsory appointments made for family planning etc. but she shouldn't have been made to have the children.

I didnt say she shouldnt have had the abortion, she was 13 at the time, so couldnt have coped with children.

I was making a point about the attitude of some people towards abortions and that they shouldnt be seen as an alternative used for 'oh i cba to buy a condom, ill just abort if i get pregnant'.

I fully support abortion, i was not saying anyone should be denied it, but i agree with the person i quoted that some teenagers do just see it as their main point of contraception and they definately need some re-education.

RIP to the four children that never were.

I know you're pro-choice, but I was pointing out that pro-choice doesn't mean pro-abortion and that pro-education is also fundamental (basically, I think we have the same argument).

You're still talking about adoption like it's just a walk in the park. Like a woman doesn't have to make sacrifices and go through physical and probable emotional trauma, not to mention the possibility for post-natal depression and then the child will probably end up in a home, with all the other children waiting to be adopted.

I think we do just wanted to make sure i hadnt offended you.

So she should have sacrificed her physical and possible emotional wellbeing for four children to suffer?

I'm pretty difficult to offend.
Good that we're on the same side! You can keep up the good work if I have to stop posting because of my shoulder injury!

Why is she so important?

But this logic just doesn't follow, because it is the child who will suffer as a result.

It isn't fair that women have the biological burden of carrying the child, but that's just the way it is. She should be able to have control over her own body. I agree it isn't fair that the mother gets more control in whether there is or isn't a child, but it would be much worse if she didn't. That stops half of humanity from having control over their own bodies. If she decides not to abort the foetus and has the child, the key person involved in all this is the child. It doesn't matter that the mother could have chosen not to have it; she chose to have it, now there is a child involved and that child takes precedence. Both parents are obligated to provide for it, because the child is the innocent party and they will be the one suffering if either parent doesn't.

I almost cried when i got told. This girl needs some serious guidance and education.

Why is she so important?

You only like double standards when they are convenient for you huh? no, your logic isn't good enough I could say that women should not be allowed to abort because of the well being of the child then! Because the child comes first? Haha, yeah... I'm not arguing that she should not have control over her body, but why the hell should he pay for eighteen years for sex?

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Living, breathing, adult > Unborn cells

Because the child isn't a child till it's viable ~24 weeks I believe...

minimarshmallow was talking about "emotional" well-being of the woman who aborted.