Pro Gay but not 'Ungay' ads allowed on buses?

"Do you not think that perhaps 'ex-gay and proud' suggests that there is something wrong with being gay in the first place?"

By that reasoning " gay and proud" equally suggests there's something wrong with being straight in the first place.

If pro-gay ads are allowed, then "ungay" ads, so to speak, should also be allowed. That is, of course, if we really do live in a functioning democracy.

We don't.

exactly. We can let o2 in, but not co2 out

or whatever a stroma does lol

That isn't even close to what a stroma does.

I'm completely pro equality but I think if your going to allow ads promoting either side of the arguement then you should allow both sides to be presented. As long as it isn't worded in an attacking way I don't think it should be blocked as offensive. Hearing an opinion you disagree with isn't the same as an offensive attack- I don't agree that people have the right not to hear opposing views however incorrect they may be percieved. I can't see how it is at all fair to put up adds which clearly provoke disagreement and then ban people from responding.

I think that the adverts just aren't allowed to target any groups of people in a negative way.

Un-gay ads are deliberately offending gay people whereas Pro-gay ads do nothing to offend straight people.

But in any case, you're clearly a bit dense so I won't be contributing any further.

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Well, one is promoting acceptance and tolerance, and the other is making an offensive and hurtful statement- I thought we'd got over the whole 'homosexuality is a disease' thing by now?

You are stating that as if it is fact. So yes there is a problem with that. It is not proven fact that a person who was once gay can become heterosexual.

The ad implies that a person, even if it was only one single person was a gay and moved on and is now Ex-Gay, so they are also now Post-Gay.

Nobody ever mentioned in this thread that being gay was an 'illness' that must be 'cured'.

But in the DSM there is an article for people who wish to change from being gay - if it exists in that there is most than one person who has encountered this in the past and by what it would seem there are people who continue to advocate that it is possible to once be gay and then become heterosexual.

Of course the DSM is undergoing a revision which will be with us soon, so it will interesting to see if that diagnosis is kept or removed.

Whether you agree with the above or not is not really the primary debate of this topic though (there is a separate topic for the issue you are talking about).

One states a fact (That some people are gay and deserve respect as it is who they are); the other pedals a lie (that there is a real cure for homosexuality). The Taliban also "cure" gay people by stoning them to death, but I doubt they would be allowed an advert on a London bus.

There are a lot of questionable things in the DSM. There was once a trend of calling literally anything a mental disorder.

Disregarding that fact, the fact that it includes a disorder where people who are gay wish to not be gay does not in any way support the idea that one can actually stop being gay. I could have a mental disorder where I wish I was a cat, and that disorder could be added to the DSM. Does that now mean that it's possible for me to become a cat?