Is Scottish independence a 'good or bad' thing?

Do you actually read any of the Yes campaigns arguments? Obviously you haven't if you believe it's all based on national pride. Why do you wan't Scotland to be controlled by a government which does not represent or value Scotland's views.

For example, 90% of Scottish MP's were against the bedroom tax. What happened? Oh, tough **** Scotland, it's happening anyway.

You do realise Wales and N.I are part of the Union as well don't you? So why do the Unionts act like it is some sort of anti-england agenda. Not to mention there are English MPs and English citizens within Scotland who also support independence.

I'm sure you'll find that the Parliament in Westminster is made up both lots of Scottish MPs and is far more fairer and nicer than the EU parliament. If you get out of the Union then you're going to get absorbed into the EU and you'll be forced to do more things then we 'force' you to do.

We're already in the EU and the same laws apply so I don't know what your point is....


Pulling figures out of thin air. English people have had to deal with open door immigration from our own government in our country!? They've listened to you more than they have us.

Nope, its been stated in a number of articles, not my fault you're too lazy to do your own research. So you're saying Scotland isn't affected by open door immigration? Good one...

Because the SNP's only real argument to leave the Union are nationalism and on anti-English sentiments that we're tyrants and the Scottish people will never be 'free' under English tyranny. It's laughable.

Well no, they are mostly based on being able to control our own state of affairs. Are you actually making this stuff up as you go along?

You obviously have no real rational or logical reasons for Scotland to leave. Your well prized oil won't cover your health care fees and you'll have to take on half of the national debt and also fund your own army and adopt the Euro.

We aren't taking 'half of the national debt' so who's making up things now? We won't need an army because we won't be involved in pointless wars just to please the americans and no one is sure if we will have to adopt the Euro yet. We won't need to straight away anyway. We can continue using the pound whether the rest of the UK like it or not. It is in their interests that we do however.
The SNP is only in power still because of free university.

Read bold.

We're already in the EU and the same laws apply so I don't know what your point is....

Nope, its been stated in a number of articles, not my fault you're too lazy to do your own research. So you're saying Scotland isn't affected by open door immigration? Good one...

Well no, they are mostly based on being able to control our own state of affairs. Are you actually making this stuff up as you go along?

We aren't taking 'half of the national debt' so who's making up things now? We won't need an army because we won't be involved in pointless wars just to please the americans and no one is sure if we will have to adopt the Euro yet. We won't need to straight away anyway. We can continue using the pound whether the rest of the UK like it or not. It is in their interests that we do however.

My point, again; if you leave the Union then the EU will recognise you as a new country and so you'll have to join the EU. .

I'm sorry but where is your evidence for this? It is unknown what exactly will happen yet. However common sense dictates that Scotland will not have to re-join as a new country.

Firstly, the people of Scotland have already been EU citizens for decades, we already have their laws in place and why wouldn't they want us in?

Not only that but what about Belgium who may also be facing break up? If Scotland is forced to re-apply then surely Belgium will have to do the same? Do you know what that would mean, that would mean that 12 million EU citizens would be kicked out and Brussels, the home of the EU wouldn't actually be in the EU anymore. Doesn't make much sense does it?

Whats the poll numbers for seperation. Hint. I've posted the historic poll results before

"Yes campaign gains ground in latest independence referendum poll"

"Support has grown by two points since January to 36% and opposition has fallen by one point to 46%, while 18% were undecided, according to the Panelbase poll for the Sunday Times and Real Radio."

http://news.stv.tv/politics/218797-yes-campaign-narrowing-poll-gap-in-independence-referendum-battle/

The scaremongering by the 'Bitter Together' anti-Independence Axis seems to be working - for the YES campaign!

pleaee could you stop looking at the world from you're myopic insular outlook.

And then it'll drop down to the thirty percent it's been stuck at for thirty years.
Why do you use the word scaremongering when obvious flaws are pointed out?

And then it'll drop down to the thirty percent it's been stuck at for thirty years.

How come support for independence INCREASED after the "obvious flaws" were "pointed out"?

"myopic insular outlook" - that is the monopoly of the 'Bitter Together' anti-Independence Axis - Projecting Scotland to the world as 'Too small', 'Too poor' and 'Too stupid', every time they open their mouths.

No vision, no aspirations for their country whatsoever - Westminster knows what is best for you - you can't do anything on your own. That IS "myopic insular outlook".

An interesting angle might be how the debate has changed since the problems in the Euro zone. Europe will probably be less welcoming to small new members these days.
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Actually, the Luxembourg Foreign Minister voiced a differing opinion (which was misrepresented by the BBC no less).



On the other hand, I can't imagine rUK are painting themselves in a good light with the constant threat of leaving the E.U.

Because all people have heard is more freebies. They'll get costed and realised that they're un attainable.

And then it'll drop down to the thirty percent it's been stuck at for thirty years.

It's only a 2% increase. Hardly ground breaking. It was a lot higher than that after braveheart came out.

The people still believing the "freebies" when the 'Bitter Together' anti-Independence Axis have been 'pointing out the obvious flaws' so loudly and so often and for so long?

The people of Scotland can't be that stupid can they?

Oh. I've got plenty of aspirations fir Scotland.

It's what I call the 'Braveheart generation' and the youth who are only demanding independence because they get free university as long as the SNP remain in power - I mean Salmond is even trying to get the voting age lowered because he knows he can't win without the youth.