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find the values of x in the range 0degrees < or equal to x < or equal 360 degrees. that satisfy sec(2x)=3

no idea what to do :/
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Reply 1
Original post by iamgreatness
find the values of x in the range 0degrees < or equal to x < or equal 360 degrees. that satisfy sec(2x)-3

no idea what to do :/

sec(2x)-3 is an expression and expressions don't have solutions.

You've missed something out of your question.
Reply 2
Original post by notnek
sec(2x)-3 is an expression and expressions don't have solutions.

You've missed something out of your question.

im sorry its =3
Reply 3
Original post by iamgreatness
find the values of x in the range 0degrees < or equal to x < or equal 360 degrees. that satisfy sec(2x)=3

no idea what to do :/


sec2x=1cos2x\displaystyle \sec 2x = \frac{1}{\cos 2x}

so you can manipulate the equation to give

cos2x=13\displaystyle \cos 2x = \frac{1}{3}

Can you continue from here? If not, post your working/ideas.
Reply 4
Original post by notnek
sec2x=1cos2x\displaystyle \sec 2x = \frac{1}{\cos 2x}

so you can manipulate the equation to give

cos2x=13\displaystyle \cos 2x = \frac{1}{3}

Can you continue from here? If not, post your working/ideas.

i cant do it
Original post by iamgreatness
i cant do it


You don't know how to solve the equation cos2x=13\displaystyle \cos 2x = \frac{1}{3} between 0 and 360 degrees?

Could you solve cosu=13\displaystyle \cos u = \frac{1}{3} between 0 and 720 degrees?

If so make a substitution u=2xu = 2x.
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Reply 6
Original post by iamgreatness
i cant do it

How would you solve cosx=13\displaystyle \cos x =\frac{1}{3}?

Do the same for this but here you'll have '2x =' intead of 'x ='.

Again, post any working and any ideas that you have if you're still stuck. This is not a solutions forum and it's hard to help if I don't know your problem.
Reply 7
Original post by Mr M
You don't know how to solve the equation cos2x=3\cos 2x = 3 between 0 and 360 degrees?

Could you solve cosu=3\cos u = 3 between 0 and 720 degrees?

If so make a substitution u=2xu = 2x.


cos2x=3\cos 2x = 3 or cosu=3\cos u = 3 have no solution

because 1cos(anything)1 -1 \leq \cos (anything) \leq 1
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Original post by ztibor
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Well yes, we both know that was a typo.
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Reply 9
Original post by notnek
How would you solve cosx=13\displaystyle \cos x =\frac{1}{3}?

Do the same for this but here you'll have '2x =' intead of 'x ='.

Again, post any working and any ideas that you have if you're still stuck. This is not a solutions forum and it's hard to help if I don't know your problem.


Original post by Mr M
You don't know how to solve the equation cos2x=13\displaystyle \cos 2x = \frac{1}{3} between 0 and 360 degrees?

Could you solve cosu=13\displaystyle \cos u = \frac{1}{3} between 0 and 720 degrees?

If so make a substitution u=2xu = 2x.

im sorry i cant do it

what bit is this whats it called i will look it up in my textbook but does it have a name e.g partial fracitons
Original post by iamgreatness
im sorry i cant do it

what bit is this whats it called i will look it up in my textbook but does it have a name e.g partial fracitons


This is just Core 2 trigonometry. You really should know it inside out by the time you study Core 4.
Reply 11
Original post by iamgreatness
find the values of x in the range 0degrees < or equal to x < or equal 360 degrees. that satisfy sec(2x)=3

no idea what to do :/


sec(2x) = 3

=> 1/cos(2x) = 3

=> cos(2x) = 1/3

Opgave cos.jpgclick to magnify

Coordinate system contains the graphs of cos(2x) and 1/3, you can see they meet 4 times in the interval 0 to 360 degrees. So you are looking for 4 solutions.

Now use the inverse cosine (cos-1) function on your calculator to find one of the solutions.

Solution 1
cos-1(1/3) = 70.529 degrees

2x = 70.529 degrees

x = 35.264 degrees

Solution 2
Because of symmetri on the graph, solution 2 must be 180 degrees minus solution 1, solution 3 is 180 plus solution 1 and solution 4 is 360 minus solution1. (Use unit-circle to clarify this to yourself if coordinatsystem doesn't make sense)

x = 180 - 35.264 = 144.736 degrees

Solution 3

x = 180 + 35.264 = 215.264 degrees

Solution 4

x = 360 - 35.264 = 324.736 degrees
Reply 12
Original post by Mr M
This is just Core 2 trigonometry. You really should know it inside out by the time you study Core 4.

i got a B in c2, duno why this is in c4 section A examples then
Reply 13
Original post by Studentdk
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Full solutions are not allowed in this forum. Please read the posting guide before making another post.
Original post by iamgreatness
i got a B in c2, duno why this is in c4 section A examples then


Because of the use of the reciprocal trigonometric ratio.
Reply 15
Original post by iamgreatness
i got a B in c2, duno why this is in c4 section A examples then

Do you understand what to do now?

I don't believe that you had literally no idea how to solve cosx=13\cos x = \frac{1}{3} in that region.

To find one solution would be a GCSE question.
Reply 16
Original post by notnek
Do you understand what to do now?

I don't believe that you had literally no idea how to solve cosx=13\cos x = \frac{1}{3} in that region.

To find one solution would be a GCSE question.

=> 1/cos(2x) = 3

=> cos(2x) = 1/3

it was just this step i had trouble with. i guess u just flip over the 1/cox(2x) to get cos2x and coz u flipped that u have to flip the 3 which makes 1/3??
Reply 17
Original post by Studentdk
sec(2x) = 3

=> 1/cos(2x) = 3

=> cos(2x) = 1/3

Opgave cos.jpgclick to magnify

Coordinate system contains the graphs of cos(2x) and 1/3, you can see they meet 4 times in the interval 0 to 360 degrees. So you are looking for 4 solutions.

Now use the inverse cosine (cos-1) function on your calculator to find one of the solutions.

Solution 1
cos-1(1/3) = 70.529 degrees

2x = 70.529 degrees

x = 35.264 degrees

Solution 2
Because of symmetri on the graph, solution 2 must be 180 degrees minus solution 1, solution 3 is 180 plus solution 1 and solution 4 is 360 minus solution1. (Use unit-circle to clarify this to yourself if coordinatsystem doesn't make sense)

x = 180 - 35.264 = 144.736 degrees

Solution 3

x = 180 + 35.264 = 215.264 degrees

Solution 4

x = 360 - 35.264 = 324.736 degrees

thnx altho ur not supposed to post full solutions sometimes, like arnold scwarzeneger said, u have to bend rules. thank u
Reply 18
Original post by notnek
Full solutions are not allowed in this forum. Please read the posting guide before making another post.


I apologise for having gone against the common spirit of this forum by posting a full solution, I was not aware of this "rule".

I do however believe that the person asking the question had received so many hints without understanding, that at some point the best help would be to see a solution.
Reply 19
Original post by iamgreatness
=> 1/cos(2x) = 3

=> cos(2x) = 1/3

it was just this step i had trouble with. i guess u just flip over the 1/cox(2x) to get cos2x and coz u flipped that u have to flip the 3 which makes 1/3??

You should have mentioned this before.

1cos2x=3    1=3cos2x    cos2x=13\displaystyle \frac{1}{\cos 2x} = 3 \implies 1=3\cos 2x \implies \cos 2x = \frac{1}{3}

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