mexican drug cartel butcher 3 men and 2 women, boils them in acid and film it.....

There is even more gruesome stuff than that, an incident in 2010 in the tourist resort of acapulco.

The remains of two guys (and the hands of others) were scattered everywhere, their skin was ripped off their heads and flung over poles outside a night club. They even severed their genitles and wrote the name of the gang resposible with the guts of one of the men.
This is the worst thing I have ever seen on the internet.

And it happened in a tourist resort, where people are on holiday right now..

Heck one guy I know on this forum is from acapulco ans was out and about when it happened.

Yeah they've gotten so much money from this trade that they've started to build underground railways between the US/Mexico border so they've avoid conventional transportation means.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1333586/Mexican-drugs-tunnel-underground-warehouses-20-tons-marijuana-found.html

That video was disgusting defiantly the worst thing I've seen on the internet, worse than the foetus soup people in China were eating. Will not be sleeping well tonight.

Foetus soup??

damn, what a ****** up world we live in

Nasty stuff

- though might I ask - how would ending the drug war end the violence in mexico?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't this violence a result of feuds between rival gangs competing in the drugs market?

If that's the case, then how would stopping fighting them (presumably alongside legalisation) help this at all? They're still going to be the ones best placed to go into business if drugs were legalised, and they'll still be the ones competing for the market surely? Plus if people don't care where they get their product from then they'll likely turn a blind eye to what happens between it being produced and brought to them - basically if violence is involved, particularly if the product is addictive.

It's the sort of thing which I think could only be solved if you combined legalisation with a massive increase in man-power & financial support to destroy the cartels, nationalise the drugs industry to make it safe and steady (later to be privatised to reliable hands) and in the mean time improving the lot of the people most likely to get involved in gangs in the first place - essentially a root & branch approach with a fresh outlook... the only downside is that it'd take a huge amount of time (likely decades) and financial support (which Mexico doesn't have & would probably need aid from the US & other south american countries), in short, it wont happen any time soon, if at all.

That's just my thoughts on it anyway.

Well, they are going to kill each other off regardless. This generation is lost even if you were going to legalise the drug trade tomorrow. It is like with the legalisation of alcohol in the United states. IT took a while for murder rates to drop.

The only thing legalisation would do is to end the allure that the huge amount of money the drug game has for many poor young mexican men and perhaps send them down different routes.

I agree that nationalisation would be better initially.

Everything else has pretty much been tried already, there isn't many options left

Well, they are going to kill each other off regardless. This generation is lost even if you were going to legalise the drug trade tomorrow. It is like with the legalisation of alcohol in the United states. IT took a while for murder rates to drop.

The only thing legalisation would do is to end the allure that the huge amount of money the drug game has for many poor young mexican men and perhaps send them down different routes.

I agree that nationalisation would be better initially.

But would it though? The market for drugs would still be there surely, and I'd bet any money that even if it was legalised no businessman or woman in their right mind would dare challenge the cartels effective monopoly on production (which they would be able to expand if it were legalised) given their reputation thus far for murder and so forth. Therefore you've still got the same system in place of a monopoly held by violent groups, who would still by vying amongst themselves for the market, and ergo large profits to be had (though it might drop if it were legalised and had to meet standards, but would they really suddenly start to improve methods of production to meet government standards when the government can't defeat them as yet when it's at war with them?), and hence still the allure of trying to make money out of it dragging mexican men into violent lives.

It's why I think they'd need to be got rid of completely and the industry nationalised to be honest - you need a clean slate, even if it takes a great deal of time and money to get there. Once it's in place then you can sell it off to legitimate business men & women who will adhere to government standards of safety & so forth, but it's the getting there which is going to be tough... the only other way I think you could do it would be to perhaps legalise it and invite the cartels to come round the negotiating table and form a single conglomerate which works together & shares profits... that's even less likely I think and a travesty of justice given what they've done, but what alternatives are there?

It's an awful situation to be in though... I myself am anti-drugs but clearly the current policy isn't working unfortunately, so you've just got to be pragmatic.

The Cartels only have power because drugs are shipped directly through Mexico. During the 70's/80's, it was shipped largely through the Caribbean and through Miami and that is why the Mexican's were not as powerful. Also, from what I understand, the Mexican Cartels are not really involved in the production of drugs.

Once, you legalise it, how exactly can a Cartel stop people from growing cannabis in the back yard or someone making crystal meth in their basement?

Even if you ignore that, how exactly would they be able to stop people from shipping it in from the Netherlands or elsewhere?

That is the most disgusting thing I have ever witnessed. God it was so bad I couldn't even watch all of it, had to stop after the first 2 minutes.

These people are just pure savage, damn im actually left without words to describe these people.

That video was disgusting defiantly the worst thing I've seen on the internet, worse than the foetus soup people in China were eating. Will not be sleeping well tonight.