Doctor Who - Discussion Thread III (no untagged future spoilers)

Oh dear god I hope not - I seriously hoped the end of season 4 would be it for Rose, given she got dragged back into it then. Move on - the ending there was just brilliant, great way to end connections with her for. good.

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Sorry - it's been released publicly though? In mainstream media etc

Wasn't that on the front page of the BBC news site earlier? XD They've moved it away now, but still on the entertainment/arts top stories.

Yep but some people still don't want spoilers. Just like the names of the future episodes have been released but I still try and avoid finding out. As it says in the OP news about ANY future episode should be in spoiler tags.

Fair enough. Would it be OK for me to put something like "this information has been released by the producers" outside of the spoiler tag? For me that seems like an important distinction - whether the information has been released intentionally or has got out through some other means.

One bit I didn't understand was when Clara said she went to live with that family before she went off travelling, and then 'she' died, so Clara stayed to 'return the favour'. Who's 'she'? And what was the favour? Sorry if I'm being a bit dense...

Martha was Rose MK2.

Another character who fall in love with the doctor and by this point I was wishing for both Martha and Rose to go the same way as Adric. The new doctor who series is a rather mixed bag to be honest. There are some wonderful episodes and some unwatchable episodes (love and monsters for example). I personally enjoy Moffat's writing for Doctor Who and I was getting pissed off with Russel T Davis who seemed to believe foreshadowing words like 'torch wood' or 'bad wolf' was a story arch.

To be perfectly honest this seems to be an issue with all female characters in the new series where they all seem to be one step away from humping the doctor's leg. (Amy was also bad at the start)

On the bright side Amy got better... Then Rory became a companion and the dynamic changed.

My main concern is Clara will be written the same way, but I am currently enjoying the episodes she is in. It is still too early to tell.

I think in some cases that Martha was a good character. However, Freema Agyeman is quite a bad actress, and her emotions in it were shown dreadfully.

The thing I disliked about Martha, and most of the New Who assistants is the fact that they all seem to fall in love with him. This is why I was so fond of Donna - she had none of that "unrequited love for the Doctor" crap and just got on with it.

Having said that, my absolute favourite series finale has to be Utopia/The Sound of Drums/Last of the Time Lords.

On another note, great first episode and

exactly! I hated Freema Agyeman. I've just seen her in this Carrie Dairies thing and she's also awful, the show is awful too.

Yes, certain episodes of the Doctor and Martha were brilliant. I hated her in them, thank God they had Jack Harness.

I really liked Martha! And the earlier episodes from that series are some of my favourite.
I don't know, maybe it's just because I understand/empathise with the position of loving someone who doesn't love you back sort of thing.
She was also great in the Torchwood episodes of series 2. Did anyone see them?

I think the concept was great but it wasn't put to it's full use.

The episode itself was alright, nothing special maybe introducing Clara three times was too much?

The leaf will be important somehow.

Overall glad it has started again, hoping the other episodes pick up the pace.

Ecclestone and Rose without a doubt! Closely followed by Smith and Clara. She's already becoming an excellent companion.

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