My G.P is dangerously useless

-rubbish-

You mean we shouldn't think she's stupid for ignoring medical advice from someone better trained?

I apologise.

And you have?

Whether the OP has or not is completely irrelevant, at least for the majority of his argument/post.

The main point is that GP's seem to be incompetent, and that this is definitely not a single case, but instead becoming a worrying trend.

I havent, nor did I clame to have been to med school. The OP was adding that to his argument as if he had a divine opinion on the situation, which in reality he doesn't. He can't tell a doctor that he his doing his job wrong when he hasn't even got to med school! And show me the facts other than daily mail links that this is a 'trend'.

Of course it is possible to tell that a GP is wrong, whether or not you have been to medical school. If you have gotten opinions from dozens of others in the field, and all of them heavily disagree with the opinion of your GP, then it is quite damn obvious.

My countless own personal experiences tell me this - I tend to jump between GP practices a lot, as I often come across extremely incompetent ones. Maybe there is a much lower standard of GP medical care in the UK - as I have had several "perfect" GP's back in Australia.

OK, so that is just your own personal experience?

Personally I have brilliant care from NHS GPs. My point being is how do YOU know the GP is incompetent other than others telling you?

Surely you can only tell a GP that they are doing their job wrong if you are a professional yourself.

You have been watching a LOT of house haven't you?

Since a treadmill test isn't available, I believe the next house protocol is to stress you in some other way - one time he did it by insulting a guy, another by beating him at chess, I think he also did it by telling some guy his wife was cheating on him...

tbh you come across as someone who has Hypochondriasis and is very critical of the healthcare system, no one ever claimed the NHS is perfect and yes what-a-surprise it is that doctors ARE HUMANS AND MAKE MISTAKES? WOW???!
If you don't like the system try living in a third world country and see how the healthcare there works out for ya.

The majority of doctors are competent, but the issue is that neither doctors nor the NHS are perfect. I have tried to give my doctors a fair reflection, but there truly are very few redeeming qualities. One may think this is just from me but there have been extreme cases of negligence - not making honest mistakes. From G.P'S, whole hospitals ect. It's more prevelant than you would think it is. In my case, doctors failed to give a treadmill test to someone who had extreme palpitations and breathlessness upon performing exercise. I am not asking for a diagnosis on sight. I am asking for doctors not to spend two years doing point-less examinations, giving me anti-biotics on and off for two years, not doing to the tests required and such. If I truly never needed a treadmill test, why give it to me eventually? The third world countries have public and private hospitals. Just because we may be lucky to get a free and relatively good NHS does not allow doctors or healthcare professionals to be absolutely and utterly negligent, rude, patronising ect.

You're forced to go through GPs and they still get paid unless they really screw up.

Then how would you get prompt healthcare before symptoms got severe. How can you be properly informed of a condition,without resorting to internet research, so you can get it treated elsewhere if you can afford it?

You clearly are misinformed of the healthcare system that operates in this country, that whilst may have its setbacks, will ensure you are seen by an appropriate medical professional when required - usually this is the GP who will treat you in the community, and doctors from other specialties in certain cases. The doctor who diagnoses the condition or receives results of some form will be in charge of explaining the condition and answering questions you may have, as well as pointing you in the directions of appropriate resources to take home, as not all details can be covered in the time pressures that operate.

The majority of doctors are competent, but the issue is that neither doctors nor the NHS are perfect. I have tried to give my doctors a fair reflection, but there truly are very few redeeming qualities. One may think this is just from me but there have been extreme cases of negligence - not making honest mistakes. From G.P'S, whole hospitals ect. It's more prevelant than you would think it is. In my case, doctors failed to give a treadmill test to someone who had extreme palpitations and breathlessness upon performing exercise. I am not asking for a diagnosis on sight. I am asking for doctors not to spend two years doing point-less examinations, giving me anti-biotics on and off for two years, not doing to the tests required and such. If I truly never needed a treadmill test, why give it to me eventually? The third world countries have public and private hospitals. Just because we may be lucky to get a free and relatively good NHS does not allow doctors or healthcare professionals to be absolutely and utterly negligent, rude, patronising ect.

Yep, purely my own personal experience. I think I have switched between at least 5 GP's (and counting lol) within the past few months alone. Probably more.




For the following reasons:
A) Numbers - if half a dozen specialists are telling you the same advice, but your GP insists the opposite - who are you going to believe?

B) Applied knowledge - GP's can also have a very wide band of knowledge - but remember that specialists have been studying the same specific area of knowledge for years and years. Very good ones are almost always involved in research - writing papers etc...

Lucky for you. Send some of your GP's over to my area



Not necessarily. Also remember that I could be in the field myself, but be a very crappy doctor. Just because you are in the field never necessarily equates to having sufficient knowledge. There will always be others in the same field who will know much more, and much LESS.

But if a GP is not a specialist and wouldn't know until he sent you to a specialist then that causes something of a conundrum. Which is contradicted by the people who have had to go umpteen times to GPs before getting diagnosed properly. I think you just want people to agree with you in face of contradictory evidence.

Doctors don't care what you think.

If your uninformed opinion was remotely important then they would be taking classes on asking patients on what they think is important.

Also, you are free to sue if they have actually committed negligence.

yea,

Doctors a definitely losing their respect in society (by me anyway)

I think they should raise the entry requirements in all med schools from AAA to A*A*AA or something very very hard to get. (only a minority of people in society would get this, which would mean A LOT less donkeys would apply for med school)

This would mean only the academic elites would have the ability to be a doctor ( you may argue that academia is not everything blah blah... shut up. If you are not smart I don't want you deciding what illness I have.)

To be frank, some of the people that went on to medicine at my school were complete dumb asses I wouldn't let them look after my gold fish never mind my health

EDIT: I know my views are most likely frowned upon as you would think that I am "just jealous"... this is not case... I want to be a Chemical Engineer, not a medical doctor...I have never considered being a medical doctor as that type of work does not appeal to me