**The "North Korea Watch 2013" Update Thread**

Hope my mum doesn't hear this news .. flying to SE Asia on the 15th. Eeep.

If there is a conflict then it's our responsibility to crush the NK government totally and emancipate its oppressed citizens. That they have gotten away with the horrors that they have for so long is already unspeakable.

I still maintain that China will not go to war against the United States, regardless of any defense pacts with NK. The Chinese are smart and patient. They want dominance, sure - but they will not be stupid and reckless about it. Even if it takes China 100 years to become sole top superpower, they will wait and bide their time and advance.

Both nations will not go to war, especially when both have nukes at hand, one with thousands more active warheads than the other.

People who believe China would actually fight against the United States in this period are in complete fantasy land. Both countries are more closer than ever if anything. They are certainly not enemies. Both countries are also aware that their economies rely on each other - they're both so intertwined. If one goes down, the other surely goes down, the worse one off being China.

And don't get me started on Russia - all of this "East vs West" thing is very outdated. Really, the most anti-US/Western approaches, apart from NK, come from some Islamic elements in the ME etc, not from Russia or China.

War between China and the US would be economic suicide for both states, hence why it will not occur anytime soon.

How credible would China's saying things like "If you mess with Pakistan you mess with us" be if they were seen to back down on their NK treaty for fear of losing trade?

How credible would China's saying things like "If you mess with Pakistan you mess with us" be if they were seen to back down on their NK treaty for fear of losing trade?

SK & Japan - some. Seoul has some pretty extensive defences built in nearby, but not quite enough to make any attack redundant.

US has much more and more extensive defences, both ship-borne and land-based, which is what they've deployed recently to the area.

I agree, but how do you propose destroying the government without inflicting concomitant damage on the citizens?

It's hardly just trade, it's their entire economic well being. The CCP's legitimacy is based on economic prosperity if that goes they will go shortly afterwards, they aren't going to risk their power for North Korea. Plenty of people also doubt how credible China's rhetoric towards Pakistan is.

Well them wanting to keep their rhetoric seemingly credible will be a factor in what happens along with not wanting Americans close by, arms deals and whatnot. I'm just worried that there's a potential for escalation.

If they do something that ****s up student loan day, I'll march to Pyongyang myself and call Kim Jong-Un a c*nt. To his face. In-front of his mother.

Don't underestimate what they can do! I never believe talks like 'experts said they don't have the nuke capacity...' When u put a country under so much pressure they could do something that could shake the world, ppl in there are almost brainwashed so they dont have anything to lose, whereas the likes of Japan and US got too much to lose. However, I do think whatever they do they won't nuke the US and btw China might be more worrying if a war breaks out!


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I'm by no means a military strategist so I can't comment on what would be the best method of approach, but I am accepting of the inevitability that a number of innocents would be harmed. However, what the NK government is doing is to them of its own accord is no salvation to them either, and so we must act against them or else we are simply complicit.

Hence why so many think if Nk launched an attack you would see China roll across the border to put in a puppet government. America and China won't come to conflict over this. Unless people in either capital completely lose their minds