My brother got caught using my 16+ zip oyster card!

Mans 21 and still rolling with an 11-15 Oyster Card.

The above is true, loser always pays out, that's why when two wealthy people go to court, it makes interesting reading as the losing one pays out a lot in legal fees and court costs.

Providing it's his first offence on the TfL network, it would be extremely unlikely for anything other than a small fine and a temporary suspension of the 16+ oyster card to come of it. I think the big fines and court cases are for persistent fare evaders rather than the one off. It also becomes big if you refuse to pay the fine.

*16+ .. Lol

Exactly. It only ends up in court if you believe you're not in the red and feel that the situation is unfair - going to court gives you the chance to make an appeal/complaint against TfL. But of course, you're aware that what you and your brother did was wrong - so there's no need for court.

Just speaking in general here - if you take it further to court and you've not got enough evidence to suggest that you're not at fault for anything, then I suppose you'd be asked to pay not only the fine, but also TfL's legal fees and court proceeding fees

I was talking about myself lol

Firstly, I think it's a civil matter for avoiding a fare, not a criminal matter, ie the prosecution don't build a massive case so I don't think they'll be a criminal record in any case. I think criminal cases are for people who have done things which impact on others such as stealing from investors, murder, and all the other physical crimes, whereas using someone else's oyster is stealing, but from the state and in any case it would cost the government a lot to take you to court over £2. It's just like stealing sweets from a shop, it rarely ends up in court

First times usually end in warning and a fine, I am 100% sure you don't get arrested, they just keep increasing your fine till you've paid it, have Yiu not read those adverts in buses talking about inspectors and how they look like Yiu? It just says fine underneath it the same it would do for buying a child Ticket for a train, don't worry!!!!!!! I got clocked for not having a train ticket once the tfl do like trying to scare the hell out of people as if they'd committed murder but don't worry! Plus an Oyster card costs 10 pound you'll be fine!!!

guys, both me and my brother got a letter from TFL.. my brother's one says " if you have any comments to make about this incident, please write them on the reverse side of this letter." it also says " you do not have to reply to this letter but it may harm your defence if you do not mention something which you may later rely on in court. anything that you provide in writing may be used in evidence" whilst mine is forcing me to reply and provide as much information as possible about the circumstances which led to my photocard being withdrawn... what should i write for both? HELP PLEASEE

Just explain the situation, but most of all, tell the truth.

As for your brother...wow, either he isn't getting anything or he's going to court...is that all his letter says?

Maybe you're the one who will get the fine after submitting the response?

it says " the facts of this incident are being considered and i must advice you that legal proceedings may be taken against you in accordance with TFL's prosecution policy.

if you have any comments to make about this incident please write them on the reverse side of this letter....

guys, both me and my brother got a letter from TFL.. my brother's one says " if you have any comments to make about this incident, please write them on the reverse side of this letter." it also says " you do not have to reply to this letter but it may harm your defence if you do not mention something which you may later rely on in court. anything that you provide in writing may be used in evidence" whilst mine is forcing me to reply and provide as much information as possible about the circumstances which led to my photocard being withdrawn... what should i write for both? HELP PLEASEE

Fine of £100 and yes you will be able to apply for a new Oyster Card.


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