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just do law

opportunities in neuroscience are in the research field,
Reply 41
So your parents:
>want you to get a job
>want you to get a law degree

lol pick one.

Its pretty hard to get a job as a law grad afaik and ohh did my Godmother ephasise that.
Reply 42
This is your degree, not your parents' - and neuroscience is a "nothing" degree? Not sure how he formed that opinion, have an aunt who's been specialising in that area and she's done alright

If neuroscience is what you honestly want to do, go for it - it's better you get into it and enjoy it, instead of take up law and discover 5 years down the line, that you hate it to bits...just my two cents
Reply 43
Original post by Terk
So your parents:
>want you to get a job
>want you to get a law degree

lol pick one.

Its pretty hard to get a job as a law grad afaik and ohh did my Godmother ephasise that.


Its not really as easy as that when its your future.

I want to do something that I will enjoy and that will also get me a job
Reply 44
Original post by ss_s95
This is your degree, not your parents' - and neuroscience is a "nothing" degree? Not sure how he formed that opinion, have an aunt who's been specialising in that area and she's done alright

If neuroscience is what you honestly want to do, go for it - it's better you get into it and enjoy it, instead of take up law and discover 5 years down the line, that you hate it to bits...just my two cents


He isn't very 'sciency' himself and believes that doing this degree will mean I am qualified for nothing. Out of interest, what does your aunt do?
just do a medicine degree with a foundation year instead?
Reply 46
Original post by death gazer
just do a medicine degree with a foundation year instead?


I know that makes more sense but I'm really interested in neuroscience! And I don't know if I'd qualify for a foundation degree considering I have a levels
Reply 47
Original post by Molly9
He isn't very 'sciency' himself and believes that doing this degree will mean I am qualified for nothing. Out of interest, what does your aunt do?


Absolutely not true - okay the pay levels you get with neuroscience may not be high, compared to law - but that doesn't make it a degree worth nothing.

She works in R&D for GSK, looking into drugs that solve neurological/psychological disorders - not sure exactly how much she earns but seems like enough to live a pretty comfortable lifestyle :smile:
Reply 48
Original post by Molly9
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I'm doing Law right now and I can tell you that if you heart isn't in it by the time you start; you're really going to struggle,

It's a heck of a lot of work to do, and doing all that work when your heart isn't in it will feel like an absolute chore.

I definitely recommend following something that's going to pique your interest, regardless of what that may be. If it isn't Law now, it's unlikely that you'll experience a magical epiphany and become enthralled in the subject.
Reply 49
Original post by Ras17
I'm doing Law right now and I can tell you that if you heart isn't in it by the time you start; you're really going to struggle,

It's a heck of a lot of work to do, and doing all that work when your heart isn't in it will feel like an absolute chore.

I definitely recommend following something that's going to pique your interest, regardless of what that may be. If it isn't Law now, it's unlikely that you'll experience a magical epiphany and become enthralled in the subject.


This.

I feel that if I don't have a passion for it I won't excel in it, and its pretty pointless having a 2:2 in law.

How do you feel about the outcome of your law degree? Do you think you're on target for a good degree classification?


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Reply 50
Parents wanted me to study medicine. I went to study medicine. I dropped out of medicine because I am not a person to be a doctor. Applied for a course I want and my parents hate me for applying there. I said: "Don't you try to interfere again." . Moral of the story: do whatever hell you want and what makes you happy.
Reply 51
Original post by Valentas
Parents wanted me to study medicine. I went to study medicine. I dropped out of medicine because I am not a person to be a doctor. Applied for a course I want and my parents hate me for applying there. I said: "Don't you try to interfere again." . Moral of the story: do whatever hell you want and what makes you happy.


Thank you! I agree with this although I cannot go to university without my parents backing as they will have to pay for some of it :frown: I'm glad you're now doing a course that you enjoy!


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Reply 52
Original post by Molly9
This.

I feel that if I don't have a passion for it I won't excel in it, and its pretty pointless having a 2:2 in law.

How do you feel about the outcome of your law degree? Do you think you're on target for a good degree classification?


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I've currently completed my first year studies and am revising (or meant to be :mmm: ) for my exams next month. In all honesty, I don't even think I'm going to get a pass or if I do, it's highly doubtful that it'd be anything better than a third.

The main reason is that my passion for the subject is pretty much zero and my brain instantly switches off when I see the walls of text in the books we have to read, of which I find nothing particularly interesting or engaging.

The only thing that'll get you through a Law degree is serious and genuine commitment to the field. If you lack that before you've even started, then it's most likely going to be a very slippery slope downwards.

On the flip-side, everybody is difference and there is a chance that you'll fall in love with it. Personally though, through my experience, that's very wishful thinking and not remotely worth the risk.
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Reply 53
You really must work out what exactly it is that you want to do. Others are saying the majority of careers related to neuroscience are in research, which you have already established you are not interested in, still you should be seeking the advice of people in industry, not the opinions of other students. Nor do you seem to have the inclination to do proper research into the other field (Medicine) by assuming what universities want instead of asking directly.

Frankly, if you go and study a subject you have no interest for, you will fail; either by dropping out or by just merely not meeting your desired grade. However, you must also study a subject that you have a certain amount of natural aptitude for. If neuroscience fits both and law none, you already have your answer.

I may seem rather harsh but I speak with some experience and believe you me, you don't want to be in my position of getting to 24 having dropped out of a degree 1 year and a semester in. Having to start again at my age part time because first year tuition fees are not available to you. I decided to study a degree that I knew I would love first time around but have NO aptitude for what-so-ever, it was an engineering degree.

After the ill fated attempt at university I started teaching music privately and for the past few years I have been a peri within a couple of schools. I love it and decided (with much research) I would like to progress my career further, my eventual aim being to become a headteacher of a primary school. So, I spoke to a lady I would like to see as a bit of a mentor, who is a headteacher, about becoming a classroom teacher and looked into doing a Primary Education degree. For various reasons, I knew that wasn't for me and applied to do what I should have done all those years ago, music at the best localish university (Nottingham).

Having gained experience and looking at this a few years on from when I started my university journey the first time around, I knew I should have never done Engineering in the first place. However, I'm glad that having tried lots of different jobs and moved out of my parent's home that I have found something I both know is in reach and that it is something I am looking forward to doing. I can't wait to study a subject I have had an interest in since I was 7 at a respected institution as well as looking ahead to the future of what I see as a bright career. Maybe university now isn't for you? Maybe you'd gain so much more by taking a year (or 4!) out and seeking work experience in a number of fields you find interesting before embarking on the university journey? Please do yourself justice by not following the sheep for the sake of following the sheep and find something you personally will gain fulfillment from.
There are very few jobs in Neuroscience. You will have to do a masters and then a PhD (3-5 years) and then join a pool of about 5000 fresh PHds looking for a handful of jobs in the pharmaceutical industry. Or a post doctoral research position at the Uni (highly competitive).

There are far too many people doing thisntype of thing for it to become a viable course for a rewarding career.

I know of a friend with a Msc in neuroscience from a Russell grp uni. She is now a tour rep for Thompsons.

No guarantees I am afraid with science degrees these days unless its engineering or medicine.
Original post by Molly9
I know that makes more sense but I'm really interested in neuroscience! And I don't know if I'd qualify for a foundation degree considering I have a levels


Yeah you do qualify, as long as you dont have science a levels! but good luck to whatever you do :biggrin:
Reply 56
Simple: Do what you want.
Reply 57
Why don't you take a gap year and just do as much work experience as you can? If you get AAA you can apply for medicine with a foundation year which doesn't require any sciences and is only a year extra.


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Ignore your parents. They should be supporting you in when you do, not bringing you down. Neuroscience is a highly respected degree too, and many would argue its MORE DIFFICULT than law, so they should respect you for challenging yourself.

In the end it's your life - NOT theirs and you CAN'T let them control the things that will effect you that way. You need to choose something you will enjoy, not something you're doing just because of your parents.
Original post by Molly9
So I have recently decided that I do not want to do the course I have offers for anymore (for many reasons) and I want to reapply for a new course in September, for 2014 entry. I have currently accepted an offer for Law with French at UCL for this September and my parents were really happy as they see law as a respected degree that I will have a good career from and earn lots of money.

I have decided that I don't have a passion for law anymore and I am really interested in neuroscience. I've done a lot of research into the course and looked at different modules at different universities and I know it's what I want to do. However, I only have two months left of year 13 and I have taken A levels in French, History, Economics and English Lit, with AS levels in biology and maths. I might as well complete my my current A levels and as I need Biology and Chemistry for neuroscience, my sixth form have said that I can come back in September for a third year and finish my Biology and Maths A levels (doing A2 classes) and do Chemistry a level in one whole year.

ANYWAY, aside from the fact that I can tell my parents are embarrassed that I will be staying on for an extra year at sixth form, they are openly condescending about Neuroscience as a degree. My dad says that it is a nothing degree that will lead me nowhere. He thinks that my best bet is to apply for medicine and become a neurosurgeon 'if that's the kind of thing I'm interested in' although I'm sure you can't apply for medicine if you've done 3 years at sixth form.

I love the course in neuroscience and I want to do it because I'm passionate about it and I don't want do spend 3 years doing something that bores me. However even I am struggling to find common jobs from neuroscience that pay well and I have nothing to say when my parents question me in my choice of degree. Is it a nothing degree? What kind of jobs can I do from this degree? Any answers would be much appreciated!

(Sorry for the long post)


Stick with what you have sometimes grass is not greener on the other side.When i did medical experience I was extremely doubtful about pursuing it but i realised i was silly and if I went through with it for so long then it is meant to be.You are having last minute doubts stick with it atleast try it then you can drop out.

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