I'm at parties about Margaret Thatcher's death

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The British left are doing their best to make a good impression, as per usual. Smashing shop windows, setting their streets on fire, attacking the police and making foul and offensive banners.

What a fantastic impression the British left is making to the rest of the world.

There can be no doubt that for intelligence, tact and civility, Britain is where it's at.

Reply 181

a729

Original post by chrissie19913

Well she didnt always have British interests in her doings did she.

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Getting an EU rebate certainly was!

But the treasonous Blair signed 20% of it away!

Reply 182

Fullofsurprises

Original post by ajh1990

It's with things like this that the Left really don't do themselves any favours. What on earth is a party going to achieve? There'll likely be violence, and that will be the headline. If they want to discuss and debate whether Thatcher was right then fine do it. But having parties, picketing her funeral, protests etc all it has done previously, and will in the future, is to show the Left, in the public's eye, as violent and sick thugs who are taking advantage of the death of an old woman. All these parties etc are doing is helping the right score easy political points!

These actions don't represent the whole of the left, any more than EDL represent the whole of the right.

Reply 183

meenu89

Original post by chrissie19913

Well she didnt always have British interests in her doings did she.

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I think she did, but we will agree to disgaree.
She wasn't perfect, but who is? I am in awe her. She is the reason why I am into politics.

Reply 184

ed-

Original post by danny111

Actually one could quite easily perform a structural break test for when she got into power and left power and if both are significant, the causal link is pretty clear. Unless you give me something that happened at both those times and could plausibly affect suicide rates. But I doubt that.

If the authors of the study did it properly, then the link is there.

No, your point is not valid. At all.

Unless you interviewed all the people who committed suicide during that period and they all told you it was a result of Thatcher then you cannot provide a causal link at all.
Stop clutching at straws. This is the most ridiculous reason for hating her I've heard yet...

Reply 185

a729

Original post by Fullofsurprises

These actions don't represent the whole of the left, any more than EDL represent the whole of the right.

Finally you stop trying to portray the right as bad - though only when it suits you lol!

Reply 186

chrissie19913

Original post by meenu89

I think she did, but we will agree to disgaree.
She wasn't perfect, but who is? I am in awe her. She is the reason why I am into politics.

Well now there's me thinking jeez I must give him some respect he has good old Boris as his profile picture lol

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TobaccoSmoke

Thatcher represented the last of the patriotic British right.

Cameron represents a new era of unpatriotic, globalist, "free market", neo-liberal capitalists who don't give a **** about anyone or anything but making money.

Reply 188

a729

Original post by meenu89

I think she did, but we will agree to disgaree.
She wasn't perfect, but who is? I am in awe her. She is the reason why I am into politics.

She inspired your beloved Boris too!

Reply 189

meenu89

Original post by chrissie19913

Well now there's me thinking jeez I must give him some respect he has good old Boris as his profile picture lol

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I am not a 'he'.

Reply 190

a729

Original post by TobaccoSmoke

Nigel Farage and UKIP?

David Davis? IDS? Hague?

Reply 191

a729

Original post by Fullofsurprises

I didn't use offensive language and how is it offensive to suggest that she shouldn't get a state funeral when it now has come out that she herself did not want one??

Hmmm

Well I assumed that could be why you have 2 warning points lol!

Reply 192

ArcadiaHouse

Original post by a729

She was a brilliant woman- arguably her simply becoming the most powerful woman in the world meant she more than did her bit for 'feminism'.

‘The feminists hate me, don’t they? And I don’t blame them. For I hate feminism. It is poison.’

Reply 193

Fullofsurprises

Original post by a729

Finally you stop trying to portray the right as bad - though only when it suits you lol!

You haven't been studying me carefully enough. I am scornful of the incoherent, floppy, racist, extreme libertarian and downright greedy parts of the right only motivated by shallow self-interest. I am always willing to listen to those who have command of their subject and can formulate an argument worth considering and who visibly mean well.

Thatcher was interesting because she appeared to have quite a lot of the latter in her whilst covertly she sometimes favoured parts of the former. By their actions shall ye know them.

Reply 194

danny111

Original post by ed-

1. I am not the guy you originally quoted. Quite sad you did not realize this.

2. You told him the part in bold already.

3. This is not clutching at straws. It's a pathetic line trying to undermine someone's argument without having one yourself. Do everyone a favour at stop using it so much.

4. I do not hate her. In fact I think she did a wonderful job with inflation. How you can even think that I hate her from my only post in this thread above is beyond me. I talked literally not at all about Thatcher in that post.

5. You are wrong, I suggest you go read a statistics/econometrics textbook.

Reply 195

a729

Original post by ArcadiaHouse

‘The feminists hate me, don’t they? And I don’t blame them. For I hate feminism. It is poison.’

In some cases she was right

Some feminists want female superiority/male inferiority rather than equality

(edited 11 years ago)

Reply 196

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Original post by popnit

That's sick. Having a party celebrating someone's death is just not right no matter who they are.

So you would not celebrate the death of Hitler and the ending of World War 2 in Europe?

(edited 11 years ago)

Reply 197

ed-

Original post by danny111

I know you're not. But you're clearly doing the same so why can't I say it twice?
The fact is there's no proof that she caused an increase in suicides.
There are even PMs who have higher suicide rates so I don't see how this can be used as a point against her.

I inferred that you hate her from the fact you're arguing a ridiculously petit point against her legacy. That generally would mean you don't like someone. Or is this some strange tribute that I'm missing :rolleyes:

Reply 198

Fullofsurprises

Original post by danny111

4. I do not hate her. In fact I think she did a wonderful job with inflation. How you can even think that I hate her from my only post in this thread above is beyond me. I talked literally not at all about Thatcher in that post.

Inflation did surge up several times during her adminstrations - it didn't achieve a long term lowering until around 1994-96 and plenty of people give more plaudits to Ken Clarke's chancellorship under Major than to Thatcher's chancellors.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2009/mar/09/inflation-economics

Reply 199

username1020490

Original post by Fullofsurprises

These actions don't represent the whole of the left, any more than EDL represent the whole of the right.