Working Class People

I don't have any real issues with the working classes but I have to say that I have yet to meet a working class person who doesn't have a massive chip on their shoulder because of their background, and that grates on me a bit. No matter how balanced a person may seem, bitterness and resentment always comes out eventually. A lot of the time, when somebody says ''I'm working class and proud'', it is evident that what they actually mean is ''I'm working class and deeply ashamed of it''.

They tend to make a noise about our troops and pro Britain and all that *******s, and then simultaneously slag off off half of the country - people from the next town, middle class people, homosexuals etc.

What they mean is, it's nothing short of annoying when floppy-haired fairy boys complain about having to buy new salopettes for their third skiing holiday of the year, when this is beyond their financial capabilities.
Perhaps it would grate on you too if you had to work hard for your money, but my guess is that you don't, considering you seem to tar all such people with the same brush.
You really don't understand a working class attitude if you believe they are ashamed of their status. You have every right to be proud if you can support a family on hard graft. Tossers who sit on their backsides all day are viewed as the lazy ones, which is where the resentment comes, because they also tend to be the ones who get the money.

In the UK nobody respects the workers and this snobbery is completely misunderstood by me. In Sweden we glorify the proletariat and ensure their best socio-economic being as they are the majority of society and they are the ones who built the country with their labour power everyday.

In Britain you seem to prefer the bankers, businessmen and other casino investment scum while all they're doing is accumulating the entitlement to commodities that would otherwise be more equally distributed to the general public, who deserves it for they created it in the first place.

Why do they feel the need to make a fuss about their status all the time? Nobody cares. They seem to find it necessary to justify their status to everyone they meet.

Anecdotal and false. I'm from a working class town and it by no means a common talking point. Apart from anything else, the class system in its traditional sense is irrelevant. And how on earth do you "justify" being working class?

Sounds like you're talking balls sunshine.

Perhaps it's not a common talking point amongst working class people but when working class people, even those that have been very successful mix with those who are of a higher social status, they always seem to feel the need to drag their background into the conversation at some point which comes across to me as disguised resentment.

If the class system in it's traditional sense was irrelevant then this thread and others like it wouldn't exist.

Well you clearly don't know many working class people is all I can conclude from that. It's a sweeping generalisation, akin to saying all members of the middle classes are elitist.

It appears to me that you don't really know how the real world works. Outside of the minority of people with titles, there is no such thing as a higher social status in the UK any more. Classes are defined along the lines of financial status and cultural activities, and these lines have become more and more blurred in recent times.
It is true that the class system in its traditional sense is irrelevant. I don't know about you, but I can't name many British towns where the primary source of employment is heavy industry. I come from a town that only has a reason to exist because of its ship building industry, yet most people are employed outside of it. People tend to be employed in the service industry and public sector more often than not and are not working class in the traditional sense. There are many different sub-classes ranging from uneducated labourers to skilled tradesmen to office workers and those in middle management. At which point someone makes the transition from working class to middle class is ill-defined, though this is often overlooked by people who have no idea what they're talking about.

Claiming that this thread wouldn't exist otherwise is nonsense. This thread is a consequence of a lack of understanding on the part of people too ignorant to see that categorising everyone in society into three classes is a stupid and irrelevant idea.

Well you clearly don't know many working class people is all I can conclude from that. True. It's a sweeping generalisation, akin to saying all members of the middle classes are elitist.

It appears to me that you don't really know how the real world works. Outside of the minority of people with titles, there is no such thing as a higher social status in the UK any more. Much of the traditional upper classes were not titled. There is still such a thing, they were always a small minority. Classes are defined along the lines of financial status and cultural activities, and these lines have become more and more blurred in recent times. To an extent. A working class person could be very wealthy and very cultured but they would always be considered working class and would most likely always identify themselves as such. Social class has more to do with things such as pedigree and accent than money.
It is true that the class system in its traditional sense is irrelevant. To an extent. Anyone from any background can be successful in just about anything these days but socially, the traditional system is still relevant. I don't know about you, but I can't name many British towns where the primary source of employment is heavy industry. I come from a town that only has a reason to exist because of its ship building industry, yet most people are employed outside of it. People tend to be employed in the service industry and public sector more often than not and are not working class in the traditional sense. Many service industry jobs have replaced traditional working class jobs. They are the new working class jobs. There are many different sub-classes ranging from uneducated labourers to skilled tradesmen to office workers and those in middle management. At which point someone makes the transition from working class to middle class is ill-defined, though this is often overlooked by people who have no idea what they're talking about. Class is something that is bred into you. One doesn't simply switch to a different social class when one reaches a certain level of income or has a certain job.

Claiming that this thread wouldn't exist otherwise is nonsense. This thread is a consequence of a lack of understanding on the part of people too ignorant to see that categorising everyone in society into three classes is a stupid and irrelevant idea.