Opinion about these universities.

And UCAS points determine which one's tougher to get into, out of York and Nottingham? By your logic, technically Bristol should've accepted me and St Andrews should've rejected me, seeing as Bristol has a lower average UCAS tariff (489 vs 509, like that actually matters) - but no, I was rejected by Bristol and offered places by St. Andrews and Warwick (albeit change of course to Accounting and Finance).

York and Nottingham are both brilliant universities - and rather than looking at some flawed league tables or the size of the university, I'd be looking at other things like course content, nightlife, accommodation, facilities, etc

Nottingham's a larger city and the university's much larger - which means their acceptance rate is relatively higher than York. What makes you think Nottingham's like a factory just because they have more students? Again, using your flawed logic, that must mean Manchester, which is a really good RG university, must be producing useless graduates on a conveyor belt, right?

Notts? you joking? It has lower ucas points than York,therefore easy to get in.
Notts has over 33,000 student compared to 14,000 in York.
Notts is like a factory the way it gives out degrees in large numbers to Tom, Dick and Harry.

P.S York has a college system.

You do realise that it is a bigger university, with more facilities and more staff? Seriously, some people...

P.S. So does Lancaster...

OP, it really doesn't matter out of those. You'll get a good degree, from a good university, so go for the one you like most

In general at good uni's the more students they intake the bigger their department.
e.g. Physics @ Manchester vs Physics @ York

But obviously manchester, leeds etc .. have created random/weak courses just to make money but that doesn't discredit their traditional courses

You don't know what you are talking about.

Would you mind pointing out these 'weak courses' please.

Notts? you joking? It has lower ucas points than York,therefore easy to get in.
Notts has over 33,000 student compared to 14,000 in York.
Notts is like a factory the way it gives out degrees in large numbers to Tom, Dick and Harry.

P.S York has a college system.

Well if you read more before you write you would have known.

That york has spend 750 million on expansion and investment which is the largest single investment of any UK university.

Please don't be condescending, thanks. I was just asking a question, actually expecting the answer I was given. But instead of assuming I thought I'd give you the opportunity to provide it.



Manchester announced a £1 billion single-campus investment in 2011. This is on top of the several hundreds of million invested in the years leading up to this.

Newcastle have invested several hundred million over the last few years.

All universities invest money and, as mentioned, several universities have invested comparable amounts. What makes York special?

You can invest all you want, but this doesn't mean that the money will be invested wisely and you don't even mention what this money is being spent on. Even if it is invested wisely, it doesn't guarantee that this will result in any substantial increase in standards or status.

Universities need to invest such large sums of money, otherwise they fall behind. It's as much about maintaining status, as it is "improving".

As for the comments about Nottingham (without being too pedantic it's not Notts - Notts is an abbreviation for the county of Nottinghamshire), that it has a marginally lower UCAS entry tariff is really neither here not there. We could be talking A*AA against AAA. You really think this means the quality of students at York are better? That A* means sod all, basically. I can confidently state that the standard of student at Nottingham will be broadly comparable to that found at York.

As for a university being more difficult to get into, this does not mean it's "better". There are some excellent departments in this country that have fairly modest typical offers.

Please don't be condescending, thanks. I was just asking a question, actually expecting the answer I was given. But instead of assuming I thought I'd give you the opportunity to provide it.



Manchester announced a £1 billion single-campus investment in 2011. This is on top of the several hundreds of million invested in the years leading up to this.

Newcastle have invested several hundred million over the last few years.

All universities invest money and, as mentioned, several universities have invested comparable amounts. What makes York special?

You can invest all you want, but this doesn't mean that the money will be invested wisely and you don't even mention what this money is being spent on. Even if it is invested wisely, it doesn't guarantee that this will result in any substantial increase in standards or status.

Universities need to invest such large sums of money, otherwise they fall behind. It's as much about maintaining status, as it is "improving".

As for the comments about Nottingham (without being too pedantic it's not Notts - Notts is an abbreviation for the county of Nottinghamshire), that it has a marginally lower UCAS entry tariff is really neither here not there. We could be talking A*AA against AAA. You really think this means the quality of students at York are better? That A* means sod all, basically. I can confidently state that the standard of student at Nottingham will be broadly comparable to that found at York.

As for a university being more difficult to get into, this does not mean it's "better". There are some excellent departments in this country that have fairly modest typical offers.

After saying all that, you will still find Notts provides better employment prospects and university prestige than York provides. More so for Economics.

Wrong! It is misleading ,they put Manchester higher than Oxbridge for employment, only becuse it offerd many more degree, but in real life people from Oxbridge and York get more prestigious jobs than Manchester or notts

You talk as if York students get an advantage over people who study at manchester or nottingham, but I can tell you that theres no advantage going to york over those unis.

Yes, I've applied for Economics as well!

Gregg dyke the director general of the BBC went to york.
I know lot of people from York who have prestigious jobs.
Manchester and notts are factories! Pile them high, sell them cheap, over crowded.

Gregg dyke the director general of the BBC went to york.
I know lot of people from York who have prestigious jobs.
Manchester and notts are factories! Pile them high, sell them cheap, over crowded.

The 1 billion is 40,000 students, compared tk 750 million for York for 14,000 students, so York gets more for its size, plus Manchester has not spent the money only announced..York spent 500 million so far and rest due cause.

Wrong! It is misleading ,they put Manchester higher than Oxbridge for employment, only becuse it offerd many more degree, but in real life people from Oxbridge and York get more prestigious jobs than Manchester or notts

No! People from Notts get more prestigious jobs than York.

If you go to finance and banking, after the target 6, Nottingham is one of the semi-target universities, York is not.

http://www.nairaland.com/141689/rough-guide-best-most-reputable/7#8734461

When it comes to Management consulting, neither is really targeted.

When it comes to Law, Nottingham will take the edge.

Overall Nottingham gives the better graduate prospect.

http://www.thecompleteuniversityguide.co.uk/league-tables/rankings?o=Prospects

York has higher UCAS points than Notts, York is harder to get into.

Manchester has 40,000 students, notts has over 33,000 students.
These places are like factories, no real student personal experience.

York is known for being excellent at teaching, ranked 8th by RAE for quality of research and have only 4% drop out rate, with a college system.
only 14,000 students.