Do people have the moral 'right' to call each other fat?

I have the right to say whatever I damn well like you frightful man you.

Yes, but why is size so different to someone's haircut or perfume? They're all personal choices.

Just because someone is fat it doesn't mean they're costing people money (if they are, they should pay for it themselves) or they're going to drop dead due to being or having a health hazard.

There is nothing wrong with being fat if it is out of ones control. Fatsos by choice on the other hand...

Do you think so?

What is the cost to society of malnutrition? What is the cost to society of smoking? Of drinking? Billions of pounds in the form of NHS expenditure - a wide range of possible conditions including diabetes, angina, cirrhosis I could go on and on. Then also, anti-social behaviour and vandalism, perhaps missing out on good education, disability and therefore unemployment, passive smoking.

What about the impact on the person's relatives (in terms of passive smoking, time spent in hospital and/or providing paid/unpaid care, the loss of a premature death etc.)

These things don't only affect the people who do them.

I'm not saying that doctors (and everyone else) should publically judge the overweight, the smokers and the heavy drinkers - people make bad decisions, where does it end if doctors start putting people down for every flaw? I just think it's silly to assume that you can do any crap you want to your body as long as you're alright with the personal consequences. What about the society?

Morbid obesity is real "fat" in my opinion. When someone have trouble breathing, moving, etc. then that's when the person needs to be reminded of their health and the risks it brings. Being reminded is different from being insulted. But then again, some people are extremely sensitive when it comes to words.

People who are overconfident with themselves tend to put "fat" people down, mainly because it makes them feel better.

This doesn't mean they're fit themselves too. If a chubby person is happy with how he/she is, then leave them be. They'll know when its time to change.

And back to the OP, there is no right to be rude. However, being straight-forward at the right time can be necessary.

CaptainDudeson is a low from UAE from a below-standard university, graduated with a pass in all of his university modules in his chosen degree on sports/personal training (/ some **** you don't need university for) he then uses his almighty wisdom to offer apparent advice on the internet about how being fat is morally wrong and costing the NHS a lot, I suppose with CaptainDudeson's ambitions and a half-arsed degree he's costing the tax-payer more as he can't pay his university fee's back, now I agree with him on some points, but his generalisations are so damn annoying, I'll admit I'm a bit over the average weight but not obese, obesity is a problem, a bit of fatness is not however. I walk to school do some running, study hard and work hard. Just because someone's fat, it doesn't mean that they are of less worth than other contributors in society, in fact unless a job requires physical stamina, fat people can be just as productive as healthy people. I don't honestly see why hes going on an internet crusade to slam all the fat people as being immoral, when his presence here and his words are immoral

UAE is a country mate, not a uni

You intellectually inept *******. You spent a while coming up with all that didn't you?

I have never studied anything to do with sports or personal training, nor do I work in that field.Your assumptions about me are totally innaccurate.

I say live and let live tbh.

Cannot be arsed to read through 8 pages of mindless drivel in this thread.
Why should "fat" people be judged based on their weight? The way I've seen a couple of comments which seem like people are talking about fat people like they're animals, not human and like they don't have feelings. Which for one is ****ing rude.
Not all fat people are unhealthy, end of.
It's sometimes not a fat persons fault that they can't lose weight, sometimes it's due to hormone imbalances, genetic conditions etc.
So what if you have a dislike for fat people, what do you actually get from telling them you dislike them? It's not going to change how they are.
Fat people could say they don't like skinny people, that skinny people are unhealthy and unattractive too.
Let people live their lives how they want.

Inb4 you're fat, because I am, so what.
Also, one story, a few months ago I was in McDonald's with my friend, some guys were laughing and being all "what is that fat lass doing here? Should be to the gym", funnily enough I go to the gym regularly, once while at the gym, some guys were sniggering and being all "what is that fat lass doing in here sweating her tits off on a treadmill?" So I can't win.

Some people are just idiotic ********s, as a lot of people on here are.

Why is is even a discussion?


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You can say it but don't expect anyone to take you seriously.

I couldn't be bothered to read every single page in this thread.
Fat is tentative. Some people are influenced by the media that fat is above size zero. So even a bit of muffin top on that tummy is already considered fat to the general society.

Do you think so?

What is the cost to society of malnutrition? What is the cost to society of smoking? Of drinking? Billions of pounds in the form of NHS expenditure - a wide range of possible conditions including diabetes, angina, cirrhosis I could go on and on. Then also, anti-social behaviour and vandalism, perhaps missing out on good education, disability and therefore unemployment, passive smoking.

What about the impact on the person's relatives (in terms of passive smoking, time spent in hospital and/or providing paid/unpaid care, the loss of a premature death etc.)

These things don't only affect the people who do them.

I'm not saying that doctors (and everyone else) should publically judge the overweight, the smokers and the heavy drinkers - people make bad decisions, where does it end if doctors start putting people down for every flaw? I just think it's silly to assume that you can do any crap you want to your body as long as you're alright with the personal consequences. What about the society?

Frankly I don't care if it's caused by disease or not. I've seen first hand the negative effects caused by people like you who think they're above others just cause they're slimmer than them. No one likes to be called fat. When you mutter those words thinking you're 'helping' them, all you're doing is damaging their self worth and their ability to interact with society.

I used to get 'Wow, you're really pretty for a big girl' haha! Eh, NOT a compliment!

Now that I've lost weight I feel better and I'd rather someone told me if I looked like I was putting on a bit, just so I can keep up with my healthier lifestyle.
But yeah, I see where you're coming from.

Right

Does a haircut or perfume affect your health? Your mood? Your fitness?
Yes, it is a choice. A choice in which they only lose out, so why have they done it?

The NHS would like to have a word with you.
Sure, not all fat people will, but a lot do and many do cost the taxpayer money as their on going problems eg diabetes, blood pressure, depression meds etc need constant medication.

I don't think fat people (note not obese people) cause more negative externalities than heavy alcohol users and addicted smokers, but I do agree there are some costs and the heavily obese should have some motivation for change, but I hate that society has being shaped to suggest that a little over normal is bad. My sister has this thing where she's perfectly healthy but feels fat when shes below average , its a bit stupid tbh that people are expected to follow a common weight, a little over average is fine, far over average is bad far below average is anorexic- so obviously bad

Right indeed.