People who think being academic means intelligence

Oh, an ad hominem attack. How can you prove such a spurious assertion?

Well you were continuously accusing me of implying something that was exactly the opposite of the argument I had very clearly put forward? I can't help but draw conclusions...

So to be clear, you would claim that everybody that goes to a top university is particularly intelligent? Every person at a top 10 is more intelligent than every person at a mid-table? Can't help but think the emphasis would be on you to prove that, rather than me to prove the obvious.

For what it's worth, I've worked in a professional environment with people from a wide variety of universities, which is probably far more experience on the matter than you have had (no offence, you're still a student right?). I have had varied views of different people from the same universities, let alone looking at different universities. However I've always noted that those from top universities tend to have a great work ethic.

The top 10? Do you mean the top 2?

No, I meant the top 10. You can tell because I said 'top 10'. It was a subtle clue.

If it helps you embrace the argument you can substitute 10 for 2.

I am insinuating that the people at the other 8 are not that intelligent. I thought you would pick up on that. Guess not.

Another eye opening comment from you. So in essence you have nothing further to say of note so have chosen to make a humourless statement instead, in the process insulting anyone that goes to a university outside of oxbridge?

Another clueless, self-entitled snob destined for graduate unemployment I suspect.

I simply stated a fact and you reacted like you were personally insulted - read over your own posts cause you seem to have a bad memory as well as being angry.

I said most inventors did not go to UNIVERSITY, a poly is NOT a UNI,I doubt you know what it means otherwise you would not have made the same mistake twice. So you are wrong - he didn't go to uni he attended a polytechnic, dropped out. It then became a uni much later.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikola_Tesla

I am using ' invent ' in the broad sense of the word:

Ford invented the modern mass motor industry, Rockefeller did the same for Oil and banking.

But how about:

Wright brothers - aeroplane

Pellegrino Turri - type writer

Leonardo da Vinci - too many inventions to list

László Széchenyi - submarine radios

Thomas Newcomen - steam engine

Wal Disney - animation and theme park design

Also the inventors of gunpower, paper, printing, compass, stirrup, foundations of mathematics and most invention pre 1800.

Fact that most people did not go to uni till recently actually supports my point.

There it is - most of the most important inventions to mankind made by non university people. I think that proves my point and I don't think any further discussion is going to be meaningful.

Hmm, no. I've read over my posts, and I've done nothing of the sort. Please quote me where I appear to be "angry"? You're the only one resorting to personal attacks here.

He did go to a polytechnic, but that's essentially the same as a university education these days. Universities back then didn't really do technology, so if you were interested in that sort of thing, you went to a polytechnic instead.

Entrepreneurs are not inventors in any sense of the word.

The fact is that nearly all these inventors have been educated to a level that would be considered "university level" these days. It has nothing to do with not being academic, which was what you were using the statement to imply.

What the fact that most people did not go to uni till recently proves is that your point is irrelevant, because going to uni didn't have much to do with academic ability.

Depending on what you meant, your statement is either one of these two:

(a) Incorrect.

(b) Correct, but irrelevant.

I will accept that you are right, if you accept that your statement bears no actual relevance to this thread.

No a polytechnic is not a university otherwise it would not have changed into a university. I mean every single poly in UK has converted into a university. If they were one and the same, it'd be stupid to change anything.

Pure simple logic.

What entrepreneurs ? You ignoring the hundreds maybe even thousands of totally significant invention made by non uni-people.

You are still have trouble with your reading skills - I said I use innovation in the broad sense which includes concepts as well as physical inventions. Only a dumb person would not accept this, Enstein and Newton were essentially concepts people.

And Disney did actually invent physical things like them parks and recognisable cartoons - he was the first one.

Also these are facts whether you accept them or not I am not bothered either way.

but I will tell you what I cannot accept is that people who don't read posts properly and then try to argue from mistaken perspectives. Thus I am calling it a day with you so I won't be relying anymore.

Thank you and good bye.........

I think good imagination is a sign of intelligence.

What do you think?

bad grades don't necessarily mean a person is stupid, but someone who really is stupid is not going to be a serious academic success.

Broadly correct but with enough hard work, you can rote learn your way to success in a lot of things.

What do you think?