Doctor Who - Discussion Thread III (no untagged future spoilers)

I agree with the comments about Matt Smith not being able to 'do' the depth of emotion that David Tennant could. I'd sort of forgotten, until I started watching a few episodes, and realised quite how much of that has been lost. There's no real emotional impact now, just constant whimsy. There were always quirks and whimsy, but that was just one aspect of the Doctor, not his sole defining characteristic. I like Matt Smith, but I think we are ready for a new Doctor now, preferably someone with a bigger emotional range.

(And yes as others have said this does come down in part to the writers, but not entirely - there have been scenes with plenty of scope for raw emotion and Matt Smith just doesn't quite manage them in my opinion.)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sv3rDSvmumI

I'm guessing River Song will be back for 'The Doctor's Name' judging from the end of this. It's not a spoiler, it's just all of the River Song scenes in the correct order.

By the way, the RS scene from about 12:00 onwards with DT is why I loved him and the writing so much during his time as the Doctor. You genuinely believe he has seen a lifetime of suffering (Time War etc), whereas now I think that the deeper emotional side of the Doctor is pretty much gone.

Anyway, do you think that River Song will be involved in that episode. The last minute of that YouTube clip makes me think she will be!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sv3rDSvmumI

I'm guessing River Song will be back for 'The Doctor's Name' judging from the end of this. It's not a spoiler, it's just all of the River Song scenes in the correct order.

By the way, the RS scene from about 12:00 onwards with DT is why I loved him and the writing so much during his time as the Doctor. You genuinely believe he has seen a lifetime of suffering (Time War etc), whereas now I think that the deeper emotional side of the Doctor is pretty much gone.

Anyway, do you think that River Song will be involved in that episode. The last minute of that YouTube clip makes me think she will be!

Anger is something he struggles with more than anything. The times he has been angry have been laughable whereas DT came across as very dangerous. He didn't just speak to the enemies he demanded their attention by charisma and power alone.

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I think that's the way he was written, Tennant brought a lot of background by talking a lot in science terms and historical terms "but you were there at the fall of the arcadia" ect.. so when Tennant got angry you could believe that he wiped out the Dalek race as shown by his alter-verse copy.

Personally i hope the next Doctor will see the return of Tennant although the next writer is apparently the guy from being Human.

I think that's the way he was written, Tennant brought a lot of background by talking a lot in science terms and historical terms "but you were there at the fall of the arcadia" ect.. so when Tennant got angry you could believe that he wiped out the Dalek race as shown by his alter-verse copy.

Personally i hope the next Doctor will see the return of Tennant although the next writer is apparently the guy from being Human.

Toby Whithouse? I hope that's true because it'll definitely make for some interesting episodes! He's very good at balancing humour and drama.

So DT would be 10 and 12? How do you reckon that would be explained?

Some people really need to let DT go....

Simple enough, like the Doctor thought that his daughter could not regenerate it turns out that actually his alter-verse copy can but somehow stops or just have him take over as the alter-verse character going back to Rose every-now and then as the others went home from time to time.

Never!

It took me a while to figure out who you were talking about. "alterverse Doctor" is generally called "metacrisis Doctor".

If we were to get metacrisis Doctor to come in (meaning the rift would have to be ripped open again, or they'd have to be really desperate and come up with a new mechanism...) then what would happen to the actual Doctor?

Was that the first Doctor Who episode this series that people have actually died in? Probably why I liked it, the ending didn't make the bad guys turn out to be nice, there was no button that made everyone come back to life and there was no speeches about love which have been plaguing this series. Why was Clara so shocked to see a picture of herself in Victorian London though? Obviously this is going to be the first step towards her realising she's lived more than once, but if I saw a picture of myself somewhere I hadn't been my first thought would just be that it must be somewhere I'm going to time travel back to at some point.
Also Jenny is a lot more likeable than Clara, shame she isn't the companion.

There wasn't a picture where she could not have had it done before though. She was wearing those clothes in the episode when in Victorian England.

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My one gripe with the episode was the sonic screwdriver magically making the Doctor better. Other than that it was quite enjoyable, although not too high a standard.

It wasn't the screwdriver, the screwdriver was only used to activate the preservation reversal cell, the same way that Clara was made better.

He did 'A Town Called Mercy' which i think was the western one.



Simple enough, like the Doctor thought that his daughter could not regenerate it turns out that actually his alter-verse copy can but somehow stops or just have him take over as the alter-verse character going back to Rose every-now and then as the others went home from time to time.

Never!