The Manchester United Thread X

I think it's fair to say that in Europe fergie has made a lot of mistakes and something he resents himself. I think since phelan has become assistant we haven't combated European and Spanish styles particularly well, querioz was a great tactician and whilst I didn't necessarily enjoy the way we played under his tenure we were very effective in Europe IMO

I think it's clear to see that united aren't caring at the moment and I can't imagine fergie is letting that become acceptable even in his old age and calmed down. I just feel sorry for people who went to the match today, I have no problem losing to a better team and Chelsea deserved a result today but to play with no real care about the result is irritating especially to the fans who,have made the effort.

Yeah that Januzaj looks quite handy, Morrison I didn't have a problem with him leaving no player is bigger than the club and I don't believe he would of bought into that mentality, but losing pogba and fryers was extremely disappointing, pogba deserved better treatment and is flourishing in a juve side where the central midfield is very well catered for. Fryers I think ended up in Belgium so spurs can get around the compensation scheme which is pretty disgusting.

I think this is exactly how Ferguson will see it as well. The giant hole in central midfield that has dominated discussion for the past two summers (remember the Sneijder saga etc) may actually be solved now, but we can't be sure until the end of next season. Tom (Cleverley) and Shinji have the potential to become the most creative midfielders in the Premier League. Phil Jones has looked solid when he's played there, Rooney is a natural fit for the role as he matures into the second half of his career (a la Paul Scholes). I think we'll give it a year, see what we really have in what we've got now, and then judge whether it needs any adjusting.
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Strip Valencia off 7, he's not even worth it. Give it back to C.Ronaldo. Sell Valencia to whoever, idk, he's so poor now.

Strip Rooney off 10, give it to RVP. Sell Rooney to PSG.

Give Kagawa number 13. Just like Park Ji Sung had, the Asian number. Should also boost shirt sales.

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Finally found the Ramires incident. Kicking out at Jones, twice.

So, one person says they don't like carrick, means he's not good...
Ok then. Carrick has been quality, can you tell me a bit in his game that is clearly lacking for his position that makes him so overrated?

Yeah I noticed that as well. He was lucky to away with that, I know jones was a proffessional foul, but still there isn't any reason to kick out like that bet Ramirez has done that to people plenty of times to break up play.

Think he weak defensively and his passing is overrated for me he isn't exactly paul scholes in his prime. There is a reason the guy doesn't have that many caps for england so I cant be the only one who doesn't rate him, hes decent but still think hes not good enough for united.

Un****ing believable, Since Carrick has played for Man Utd, we have only lost the premier league on 2 occassions. Once on goal difference and once by a single point.

Our inability to beat top teams highlights our weaknesses in the CL

Like this season we've flopped against the top 4 imagine what would happen if we played a team like barca let alone bayern Munich

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Think he weak defensively and his passing is overrated for me he isn't exactly paul scholes in his prime. There is a reason the guy doesn't have that many caps for england so I cant be the only one who doesn't rate him, hes decent but still think hes not good enough for united.

I actually rate Carrick alot, but it is interesting that he's never really been picked for England. Granted he's been up against some world class players like Gerrard/Lampard but when others like Barry/Parker/Hargreaves have been given the nod over him, its confusing.

England for the WC should set up with Carrick, Wilshere and Gerrard imo.

You're an Arsenal fan, you probably think Arteta is the new Scholes

Tbf even Scholes got shifted out of position for Lampard and Gerrard.

So???

steven gerrard has never won the premiere league does that make carrick better than him?

Just because you play for a good team does not make you a good player does it...

So the views of players like Xavi and Alonso praising him counts only because he plays for Man Utd? What about managers like Sir Alex continuously praising him or Wenger saying his inclusion in the PFA player of the year award being completely justified, these are all deluded morons are they? Or maybe, just maybe they understand the game much better than you and realize how pivotal Carrick is to the United set up.