84 schools have NO white British pupils at all... double the number of five years ago

Original post by thesabbath

Remember the Newspeak dictionary:

Diverse = less White
Multicultural = less British
Vibrant = fewer Whites

When we notice this we're called "racist".

You're saying skin colour doesn't matter in an effort to cover up the fact that you are anti-White.

Why does skin colour matter? Tell me why the average shade of skin in a UK school is fundamentally important to you.
And then tell me if the following things matter as well: height, eye colour, hair colour, length of fingernails, size of feet.

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Original post by playingcards

So essentially, you’re conflating skin colour with culture. Even though they clearly aren’t the same thing.

Skin colour does not determine how someone lives their life, what they believe, the language they speak, the values they hold.

It perhaps shouldn't, but it definetely does.

A higher proportion of Asian people will be Muslim than Whites, and therefore more will hold Islamic values. More Mexican people will speak Spanish than Whites, etc etc

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gagaslilmonsteruk

18

I couldn't really care less. Everybody should have the right to an education regardless of race, disability, gender, religion, orientation. TBH though there are areas of the UK where white British are a minority in terms of local population - more noticeably in large cities like London, Birmingham and Manchester. I come from a predominantly white area and actually it is fairly rare to see people of other races. We had only 2 people of different ethnicity in my year at school, and to be honest I wish we had more in my area because on a personal level, meeting people from other cultures is something that is a genuine interest of mine.

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Original post by bustabust

Wee bit egocentrical, but ok.

As I have already said, I firmly believe cultural differences exist more between members of different races than within a race.

Based on what? And what is a 'race'?

The integration problem would be that people are spending their formative years away from the culture of the majority, which *could* leave them disadvantaged or prejudiced when they, later in life, have to deal with more White British people in their work/uni/whatever.

What is the culture of the majority that is, apparently, immanent to being 'white British' and does not exist elsewhere? How does exposure to a 'white', working-class male living in Tower Hamlets inform somebody of the qualities of a 'white', middle-class female living in Sevenoaks?

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Original post by bustabust

It perhaps shouldn't, but it definetely does.

A higher proportion of Asian people will be Muslim than Whites, and therefore more will hold Islamic values. More Mexican people will speak Spanish than Whites, etc etc

Asian isn’t a skin colour. Mexican isn’t a skin colour.

Skin colour does not determine culture. You’re mistaking correlation for causation.

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Theflyingbarney

15

As countless people have said, I don't see why it matters. Even if you are adamant that the UK's culture is being destroyed by immigrants or whatever, these are 84 schools where specifically WHITE BRITISH students are not present. This doesn't mean there were no British students (nor, for that matter, does it mean that there were no white students - there could have been hundreds of white Irish kids for all anyone knows). Some of these 'non-White British' students' families could have lived in the UK for generations; the colour of their skin doesn't make them any less British. I'd find it slightly more concerning if these were schools where all the kids were first or second generation immigrants (i.e. either they or their parents were born outside the UK), but still only because of the social issues with integration that this would be indicative of, not because they're 'eroding white British culture' or whatever you want to call it.

Britain isn't and has not been a 'white country' for decades now, get used to it.

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Original post by whyumadtho

How does this support your assertion that culture only exists amongst discrete 'groups', with differentiation occurring between these 'groups'?

Dominant interests also vary between individuals.

I didn't say "only". I simply said that there are trends if you like. I have more in common with the cultures of other White people. There is more difference between me and a Pakistani than someone White Scottish. This perfectly exemplifies my point, I'm not sure how you think it doesn't.

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gagaslilmonsteruk

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Original post by Shaker1903

Can not put into words how much I despise the Daily Mail.
This article further reinforces my hatred. A load of xenophobic tosh.

Oh xenophobia is just where they start, not to mention homophobia and discrimination against young people in general by taking photos of drunken people on the city streets and saying we're all like that.

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Original post by bustabust

It perhaps shouldn't, but it definetely does.

I acquire my social values via interacting with people and objects, not by being born with a particular skin tone.

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Original post by playingcards

Asian isn’t a skin colour. Mexican isn’t a skin colour.

Skin colour does not determine culture. You’re mistaking correlation for causation.

Fine, replace Asian with medium-brown and Mexican with kind-of-orange.

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thesabbath

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Original post by playingcards

Why does skin colour matter? Tell me why the average shade of skin in a UK school is fundamentally important to you.
And then tell me if the following things matter as well: height, eye colour, hair colour, length of fingernails, size of feet.

The word "racist" is used as a big stick to beat White British people with if they express their preference for living with other White British people.

You're very keen to say that skin colour isn't important, but really you're just advocating a country with less White people in it.

If that isn't racist towards Whites then how would you define racism? You're anti-White, just admit it.

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Original post by bustabust

I didn't say "only".

I derived it from this assertion: "Different races have entirely different cultures".

I simply said that there are trends if you like. I have more in common with the cultures of other White people. There is more difference between me and a Pakistani than someone White Scottish. This perfectly exemplifies my point, I'm not sure how you think it doesn't.

You have more in common with the individuals who have been socialised in a similar fashion, which is neither guaranteed nor determined by merely possessing the same category of skin tone.

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Original post by whyumadtho

Based on what? And what is a 'race'?

What is the culture of the majority that is, apparently, immanent to being 'white British' and does not exist elsewhere? How does exposure to a 'white', working-class male living in Tower Hamlets inform somebody of the qualities of a 'white', middle-class female living in Sevenoaks?

The point about social class being perhaps more important is a good one and I won't deny it.

Bad integration is a bad thing.

White British culture is whatever it is. I can't really give you examples or describe it tbh

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JonnyD

15

It doesn't really matter though does it? It's not as if there a white pupils all over the country not going to school 'cause the black kids got there first.

Typical right wing propaganda.

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Original post by whyumadtho

I derived it from this assertion: "Different races have entirely different cultures".

You have more in common with the individuals who have been socialised in a similar fashion, which is neither guaranteed nor determined by merely possessing the same category of skin tone.

I was generalising.

While skin colour doesn't inherently cause you to be socialised a certain way, the traditions of those before you does, and these traditions vary between races. Whether this trend is correlation or causation I do not know but I do know that it exists.

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Original post by bustabust

The point about social class being perhaps more important is a good one and I won't deny it.

Bad integration is a bad thing.

"Integration" is an unachievable myth. There isn't a single individual in this country who is compatible with every other resident.

White British culture is whatever it is. I can't really give you examples or describe it tbh

Of course not, because it doesn't exist as an entity. Culture exists within individuals and does not span the country, which is what I indicated in my circle analogy.

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Original post by bustabust

Fine, replace Asian with medium-brown and Mexican with kind-of-orange.

I don’t even…?
So you think that if someone is born with “medium-brown” or “kind-of-orange” skin then they must automatically hold different cultures, ideas, and values to you?
What about someone born with “really white” or “medium white” or “kind-of-white” skin? Where do Mediterranean types sit on your scale of acceptable skin colour? Or ethnic Celts?
When does the shade tip over into something you feel uncomfortable with?

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