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Isn't it about time that attitudes changed towards rape?

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OK.

But the thing is that rape committed by women is already punished but just classed under "sexual assault" instead of rape. And that needs to change.

Yeah, there will be a low conviction rate. But that's the way things are unfortunately. However, changing the law for women to be able to commit rape may be a step in the right direction to tackle rape and reduce it.

That's kind of exactly what I said :s-smilie:

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LewisG123

Original post by Eljamaispa

Can't remember what I originally said and I can't be bothered to check. But if a women doesn't have a penis she cannot 'rape' according to UK law's definition because it needs a PENIS involved. If she can be convicted of rape for other reasons (assist, has a penis/is trans-women etc), then fair enough.

My original point was women can be convicted of rape which I've proven is true

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james22

Original post by LewisG123

My original point was women can be convicted of rape which I've proven is true

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Original post by LewisG123

Well you have a poor understanding of law then, if you're convicted of rape then in the eyes of the law you are a rapist therefore under the law women can rape

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You say here that women can rape...

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slade p

women should be done for rape like a man would be if they forcefully erect a mans penis and mount their vagina onto the penis without his permission. it cant just be sexuall assault.

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Cable

Original post by abc:)

That's kind of exactly what I said :s-smilie:

Sorry my bad :redface:

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Cable

Original post by Shockolate

Because of the 'rape culture' there is in the world...and they also live in a society where people always try to shift the focus away from the behaviour of the perpetrator onto that of the victim - and it's this culture that needs to be challenged.
Sorry for the late reply. Been quite busy.

Can you give a detailed explanation of the "rape culture"? Or is it the culture of blaming the victim that you're referring to? And I haven't noticed society always shifting the blame to the victim, except people who think men can't be raped by women or should take it like a man and a minority of people who think a woman deserved to be raped for dressing a certain way.

From what I have seen, the problem with female perpetrators of men, isn't that they aren't always given the title of 'rapist', as they are still condemned as seriously sexually assaulting someone, and it is still recognised that the man has not consented to sex. I also don't think that just because women can't be given the title rapist, that it's going to encourage more women to violate men.

I personally believe it's part of the problem. The thing is that people associate having sex with someone against their will with the word "rape". And when only men can be convicted of rape, it leads to people thinking rape is male problem. That only men need to be told not to rape. And since there is not much pressure and condemnation against female rapists, it arguably makes it harder for male victims of rape (by women) to come out and report it.

I'm not saying that changing the law to allow women to be convicted of rape will automatically change everyone's perceptions/attitudes towards rape. But it's a step in the right direction imo. Of course, extra work needs to be done to educate people about rape and change attitudes towards it (e.g. that a man is weak for being raped).

There is also a huge problem in that it is seen as normal for men to sexually assault women, and that it's assumed that men are allowed access to a woman's body, and that it is seen as the victim having made a wrong choice rather than realising that it is the perpetrator who has made the decision to rape/sexually assault. Which is the main problem for female victims of males when it comes to getting justice.

Can you give some evidence for this please?

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SannaS

Original post by Steevee

Surely you're not serious?

thats what I was taught in pshe lessons

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mmmpie

Original post by SannaS

thats what I was taught in pshe lessons

That rape doesn't hurt men?

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Steevee

Original post by SannaS

thats what I was taught in pshe lessons

Well your teacher was an idiot then. If it was just physical pain that was the issue then rape would be no more serious than assault.

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Jessica_T

Original post by SannaS

thats what I was taught in pshe lessons

"Rape" against a man generally is forced penile penetration of the anus. Tell me that wouldn't hurt.

Besides, as someone has already said, the physical pain alone isn't what makes rape so horrific, it's the mental scarring of the experience too. If pain was inherent to rape then "penile penetration of the mouth" wouldn't be considered rape, which it actually is.

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Broazytravapy

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