Feminists are such massive hypocrites

The feminism you see, the 'vocal' feminists, are nowadays more concerned with female superiority than equality. It's a real shame.

What are the bad things that come with being female that we dont accept? All i can think of are maybe periods and childbirth, which quite frankly we've all been quite happy with dealing with for years thanks.

I imagine almost everything else is (or should be) not gender specific if you are talking about rights and stuff.

The inevitably lower pay women endure because of their time out of the workplace and (the potential for) maternity pay which employers have to cover.

That's a disadvantage to being a woman.

Not sure that it is reasonable to expect the benefits of maternity pay and law (which men don't get) and also expect the same pay.

Inb4 "what if I don't want children" -- it's all about potential costs to the employer. It was feminists that banned employers from asking about plans for family/impotence etc. so you reap what you sow.

For the record, my solution to this is to give men the same allowances - and watch the pay gap disappear. Interesting that the feminists don't take this view though, isn't it? They're only interested in benefiting one side.

I think most women accept that if they take time off work to have children then their career isnt going to progress as fast. Its only common sense.

Then why the fascination with the pay gap?

I couldnt care less so i have no idea

It happens directly in small business, and comes about through lack of promotion in large businesses.

Guess im lucky with the businesses i know about and work for then.

What? I don't support women getting less pay in return for better conditions. I support men and women getting the same pay and conditions. Pay and conditions should be standard. Nothing hypocritical about that. I endorse reducing men's pay and improving their conditions - which would close the pay gap.

Guess i mis understood what you meant

It was planned but didn't happen. Some allowance can be transfered from mother to father at her request - that's a) not all the allowance and b) only at her request. ie. not equal.

Well at least thats an improvement then isnt it? I imagine that is to protect some women from maybe abusive husbands forcing them to go back before they are ready and then taking a legal paid break using the paternity leave? Thats just a guess though.

I don't care what "guys" think or expect. I deal in economic reality. Why should a company pay for some employees to have better conditions on the same pay as those who do not?

How women and men address the financial demands of pregnancy is up to them - not private businesses.

My point was that the men who think like this need to stop trying to take everything they can get and then complain that women do the same thing.

Whereas that sounds like feminism to me.

In fairness, it's radical feminists you want to aim your anger at rather than feminism in general, there are several strands and it's the vocal shove-my-opinions-down-your-throat ones you're talking about. I hate that too, and the same goes for religious people who try to argue out with you that what you think is wrong and you should convert. I'll come to you if I need help thanks!

For the record, my solution to this is to give men the same allowances - and watch the pay gap disappear. Interesting that the feminists don't take this view though, isn't it? They're only interested in benefiting one side.