A homosexual muslim's dilemma.

Well tbh, Islam is pretty clear about homosexuality, there is no 'inidividual opinion' that can be derived. The thing is, if each and every one of us were to come up with our own rulings and laws then don't you think its kinda pointless to 'submit' yourself to God, when in fact you are not submitting to His laws.

Not necessarily. If everyone made up their own rules to suit them (e.g. I think it's okay to steal because I want to steal) then that would reflect a sin and deviation from God, yes, but if you adopt a set of ruling based on what you truly believe, and what you truly interpret as God's will, then in my eyes that is a more loyal approach to worship than mindlessly following what is written. I can see no reason why Allah would not intend a different set of rulings for each individual, and indeed that makes far more sense than a catch-all that applies to everyone, regardless of situation. Because we are all different and all face different trials.


Those verses in the scripture speak of 'perversion' i.e. deviating from the natural order. People who went against what Allah intended for them. Agreed? Well that makes no sense to apply towards homosexual men, because they are not naturally intended for females. They can't be. Everything in their body, the natural God-given body they have, tells them they are meant for males. It is my interpretation that those verses are intended towards heterosexuals who, overcome with lust, threw down the partners Allah had intended for them (women) and took each other as partners. But the point isn't that they did the dirty with other men. The point is that they willfully and purposefully thwarted God's will. Allah made them heterosexual, he made them for women and they disobeyed. It would make no sense to apply this verse to real homosexuals, because they are not made for women. The people referred to sourced their desires from sin and evil. Homosexuals are born with it. Allah has given it to them. It would actually be as sinful and perverted for a homosexual man to lie with a woman he has no loving feelings for as for two straight men to do the same.

You may disagree with my interpretation. That is fair. But I mean only to demonstrate that Islam is not clear on this topic, because I read those verses the same as you and this is the conclusion I came to.

So are you saying that anyone can read a verse from the Quran and come to their own conclusion? If this is the case than I am afraid this is not acceptable as Allah sent Prophet Muhammad (Saw) to explain the meaning behind each verse and we have many scholars who have studied thousands f Hadith and dedicated their lives to study the religion in order to provide us with specific rulings on these issues. As not all of us can study the religion in so much detail and accurately derive rulings.

One question to the anon, do you think homosexual desires are natural...if so can you please provide me with evidence on this.

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I do believe it is natural, but how we deal with it depends on ourselves and what we believe.

There are many articles, papers and scientific literature that points towards homosexuality being determined before birth, in the womb of the mother. Also, the structure and wiring of the brain in a homosexual man is different to that of a heterosexual man (and the difference is there with homosexual and heterosexual women), hence physiological differences.

These are just a few things I've pointed out. There is a lot more evidence, but if you want to actually learn more than you can research it yourself.

There is nothing in Islam that condemns how I feel and you will have to agree that Islam really only talks about sodomy as an act. Anal sex between a husband and wife in Islam is also prohibited.

Whether you choose to believe the evidence out there or not is a moot point. The truth will always be the truth.

(Before I begin, I just want to say that I know the stance of homosexuality within Islam and it's rulings and that I do adhere to my religion and no, homosexuality is not a choice).

I am a gay muslim and wanted to get some advice. Apart from 2 people, no one knows that I am gay. Trying to reconcile my homosexuality with Islam has been hard, to say the least, and it doesn't help that I have hardly anyone to talk to about this, hence why I am making this thread.

What can I do to reconcile with myself, instead of going into a pit of depression, anxiety and self hatred, which I am slowly going into? Telling anyone within the family or the muslim community would be social suicide and I would treated as someone with an incurable highly infectious disease. Any advice would be appreciated, particularly from any other gay muslims.

(Before I begin, I just want to say that I know the stance of homosexuality within Islam and it's rulings and that I do adhere to my religion and no, homosexuality is not a choice).

I am a gay muslim and wanted to get some advice. Apart from 2 people, no one knows that I am gay. Trying to reconcile my homosexuality with Islam has been hard, to say the least, and it doesn't help that I have hardly anyone to talk to about this, hence why I am making this thread.

What can I do to reconcile with myself, instead of going into a pit of depression, anxiety and self hatred, which I am slowly going into? Telling anyone within the family or the muslim community would be social suicide and I would treated as someone with an incurable highly infectious disease. Any advice would be appreciated, particularly from any other gay muslims.

why would you want to be part of a religion and community that would be so against who you are?

My honest advice is to leave Islam, you'd be a lot happier not being guilt-ridden and repressed just for who you are.

I thought the rules said you were either one or the other?

hey, i'm a homosexual girl. however i'm not religious.
in my opinion, i can imagine that you're really trapped. i'm open-minded when it comes to religion, and i don't know a thing about islam but i don't think you should feel bad about who you are.

being gay is 100% not a choice, it IS natural. whether people like it or not you were most certainly born this way. religion, however is a social construction (bare that in mind)

i don't think you should leave islam. everybody has the right to have a faith. you are who you are. you were born this way and you should be proud, regardless of what others may say about being a muslim homosexual. lying about your identity and hiding this forever could cause major depression if you conform to a traditional life/marriage.

if i was religious, i'd think my god would love me however i am, because i was created this way. imagine being with someone you really love, you could be so happy.

never betray yourself.

I wouldn't be surprised if the majority of Muslim's in the western world are gay.
Islam doesn't work in the western world and that is why you have these idiots coming out as being gay.

Thanks for responding.

*Hugs*

Any constructive response is a good response to me, thank you .

I have no siblings and (due to other reasons) I cannot talk to any of my cousins. To be honest, in the asian muslim community, even many of the younger people are quite disgusted by even the thought of a man attracted to a man, and then there is always the problem of trust. Can I trust that person to not tell anyone else?

I don't think I would ever come out to the older people.

The 2 people, I'm actually out to, are online friends.

Can you please enlighten us, because I can't understand how you managed to combine all these things together.

Can you please enlighten us, because I can't understand how you managed to combine all these things together.