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Reply 740
Was wondering, does anyone had the answers to the Examnation-style questions right at the back of the 'AQA Physics AS level' book by Nelson Thornes? P.210 I think. Thanks!:smile:
Original post by Raimonduo
Was wondering, does anyone had the answers to the Examnation-style questions right at the back of the 'AQA Physics AS level' book by Nelson Thornes? P.210 I think. Thanks!:smile:


https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B7-NKxDRvVLjek1SZWdVZ09jY28/edit?pli=1
Reply 742

mmm, not what I was looking for, but thanks anyway :redface:
Reply 743
do you guys think we'd lose marks if we don't put our answers in SI units?

for example on question 4ci in the jan 2013 paper, I put 500,000N, but the mark scheme had the answer as 5*10^5, both are the same, but do you reckon I'd lose the answer mark?
Reply 744
hey wtf is up with question 4c iv) in jan 2013?

they rounded the answer wrong in the mark scheme

the answer is 1.65*10^4

but instead of rounding to 1.7*10^4, they rounded it instead to 1.6*10^4

I'm pretty sure you round up for numbers 5 and over....
Original post by Raimonduo
mmm, not what I was looking for, but thanks anyway :redface:


yeh i realised !! loool i'll look for it dw :smile:
Reply 746
Original post by Jack93o
do you guys think we'd lose marks if we don't put our answers in SI units?

for example on question 4ci in the jan 2013 paper, I put 500,000N, but the mark scheme had the answer as 5*10^5, both are the same, but do you reckon I'd lose the answer mark?


Unless the question stated that you must put it in an appropriate amount of significant figures, I think 500,000 is fine. I'll have a look at what I did on Jan13.
Original post by Jack93o
hey wtf is up with question 4c iv) in jan 2013?

they rounded the answer wrong in the mark scheme

the answer is 1.65*10^4

but instead of rounding to 1.7*10^4, they rounded it instead to 1.6*10^4

I'm pretty sure you round up for numbers 5 and over....


you would get the mark, as long as the step before you showed the full answer at least as 1.65×104 1.65\times10^4 and showed that you rounded to 2 s.f. you would get the mark
Reply 748
Original post by posthumus
Just what I was looking for myself, brilliant.... thanks ! :biggrin:


np :biggrin:
Reply 749
oh thats alright then for SI units

btw for question 7e in jan 2013, do you guys know why the mark scheme put so much emphasis on 'even number of multiples of new wavelength'?

the only requirement for an in-phase relationship between two waves, is that theres a whole number of wavelength difference between them, it doesn't have to be an even number, right?

also, for 7c, I thought it was a minimum, I see the two waves are in phase, but the detector is at the point where the the two waves are both in equilibrium. If the detector was placed a bit to the left, then I get that it would be a maximum, but where its shown in the diagram, its a minimum surely
Reply 750
Original post by Jack93o
oh thats alright then for SI units

btw for question 7e in jan 2013, do you guys know why the mark scheme put so much emphasis on 'even number of multiples of new wavelength'?

the only requirement for an in-phase relationship between two waves, is that theres a whole number of wavelength difference between them, it doesn't have to be an even number, right?

also, for 7c, I thought it was a minimum, I see the two waves are in phase, but the detector is at the point where the the two waves are both in equilibrium. If the detector was placed a bit to the left, then I get that it would be a maximum, but where its shown in the diagram, its a minimum surely


For 7c, I initially thought that a minimum would be generated as well, because, as you've said, they both reach their equilibrium point at the point they reach the dector (displacement of both waves = 0 at the detector).

However, upon looking at it closer, I realised that, actually, the wave on the left being received must travel a longer distance, than the wave on the right. So through actually counting the amount of peaks and troughs in both the waves being received, I saw that there were 6 whole wave periods on the wave on the left, and 5 whole wave periods on the wave on the right. Which meant that, considering path difference, if the path difference is a whole integer number of λ, a maximum would occur. Which, in this case, the path difference was 1λ, which meant a maximum would be detected.
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Original post by Raimonduo
For 7c, I initially thought that a minimum would be generated as well, because, as you've said, they both reach their equilibrium point at the point they reach the dector (displacement of both waves = 0 at the detector).

However, upon looking at it closer, I realised that, actually, the wave on the left being received must travel a longer distance, than the wave on the right. So through actually counting the amount of peaks and troughs in both the waves being received, I saw that there were 6 whole wave periods on the wave on the left, and 5 whole wave periods on the wave on the right. Which meant that, considering path difference, if the path difference is a whole integer number of λ, a maximum would occur. Which, in this case, the path difference was 1λ, which meant a maximum would be detected.


For jan 13 7e, can you explain the answer? it's a bit confusing.
Reply 752
Original post by NedStark
For jan 13 7e, can you explain the answer? it's a bit confusing.

Mmm, not too sure about that dude, I got that wrong as well. But I wouldn't worry about it, since it came up in Jan13, it's unlikely that it'll come up tomorrow.
Reply 753
Original post by Raimonduo
Was wondering, does anyone had the answers to the Examnation-style questions right at the back of the 'AQA Physics AS level' book by Nelson Thornes? P.210 I think. Thanks!:smile:[/

https://college.esher.ac.uk/subjects/Physics/2012%20%202013/AS%202012-13/AUTUMN%20TERM%20UNIT%202/UNIT%202%20MARKSCHEMES%20FOR%20EXAM%20QS%20IN%20TEXTBOOK/Unit_2_End_of_unit_answes_to_examination_style_questions.pdf
Reply 754
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Original post by Raimonduo
Was wondering, does anyone had the answers to the Examnation-style questions right at the back of the 'AQA Physics AS level' book by Nelson Thornes? P.210 I think. Thanks!:smile:[/

https://college.esher.ac.uk/subjects/Physics/2012%20%202013/AS%202012-13/AUTUMN%20TERM%20UNIT%202/UNIT%202%20MARKSCHEMES%20FOR%20EXAM%20QS%20IN%20TEXTBOOK/Unit_2_End_of_unit_answes_to_examination_style_questions.pdf


Looks like I need a password for that link.
Reply 755
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Original post by acsecnarf


Looks like I need a password for that link.


Ah sorry i'll try again
Reply 756
Original post by Raimonduo
Was wondering, does anyone had the answers to the Examnation-style questions right at the back of the 'AQA Physics AS level' book by Nelson Thornes? P.210 I think. Thanks!:smile:


Is this what you're looking for? :smile:
Reply 757
Original post by h94k
Is this what you're looking for? :smile:

YES!!! Thanks a bunch!
Reply 758
Could somebody help explain how to answer this question for me please because I don't really understand how you calculate the answer. It is from the Nelson Thornes AS physics textbook and is on page 107, question 4:

A small toy of weight 2.8N is suspended from a horizontal beam by means of two cords that are attached to the same point on the toy. One cord makes an angle of 60' to the beam and the other cord makes an angle of 40' to the vertical. Calculate the tension in each cord.

Apparently the cord at 40' has a tension of 1.5 and the other cord has a tension of 1.9, I've tried many ways to work back from the answer but I can just not seem to figure it out :/.
Original post by Jack93o
do you guys think we'd lose marks if we don't put our answers in SI units?

for example on question 4ci in the jan 2013 paper, I put 500,000N, but the mark scheme had the answer as 5*10^5, both are the same, but do you reckon I'd lose the answer mark?


you would lose a mark so stick to 2 or 3 SF

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