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Original post by Alejandro
I kinda hated it :frown: But that's my own fault because I was really risky with my priorities with which modules I revised!

I did the temples question and the last essay question on archaic art!


I did the temples question as well, what sort of stuff did you put for part a? Me and my friends are divided and I'm worried I did it wrong!
Original post by mightyscott
The key point in a forty marker is "comparing to classical values". By classical values I thought values which the audience would value, so I stuck with that and compared my view to theirs. Should be fine!


Oh! Well then that's good, I was panicking over that because I was seeing it like I would a literature question where it's a lot of comparing, so I was worried since I didn't do much comparisons there, fingers crossed for August then!
Original post by EmperorA
It's true, just referring to the text is enough


Ah, thank god,I don't need to worry about losing a ton of marks then :smile:
Original post by mightyscott
I chose Antigone, I didn't like either of them though! :frown:


No me neither :/ I said before I went in as long as its not a choice between Antigone and Hippolytus then it's ok. But I chose Antigone as I felt I could answer it better. I'm worried about not putting in enough comparisons now in the 40 marker but I used specialist vocab, lots of context and two examples from each play so hope it's ok!


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That exam was horrendous! :/

I did Antigone and the deserved fate. I thought Antigone was okay, not brilliant but not excessively bad. I think my 10 mark response was kinda short though, I only wrote 3 paragraphs or so, basically a page. And then my 20 mark took me ages! I don't even know how or why.

I was left with about 40 minutes for the 40 mark question, and I completely rushed it. I think I just started reciting about what happened in the plays and why most of the characters didn't deserve their fate. I only factored in the Athenian audience about three times...

Oh well, I only need a B overall in this subject and it's always been my worst subject, but I think I'm gunna struggle to get a C now haha. My teacher always said that they're really generous in the exam though, so I hope that's still the case 'cause I'm gunna need it xD
Original post by MichaelB6
That exam was horrendous! :/

I did Antigone and the deserved fate. I thought Antigone was okay, not brilliant but not excessively bad. I think my 10 mark response was kinda short though, I only wrote 3 paragraphs or so, basically a page. And then my 20 mark took me ages! I don't even know how or why.

I was left with about 40 minutes for the 40 mark question, and I completely rushed it. I think I just started reciting about what happened in the plays and why most of the characters didn't deserve their fate. I only factored in the Athenian audience about three times...

Oh well, I only need a B overall in this subject and it's always been my worst subject, but I think I'm gunna struggle to get a C now haha. My teacher always said that they're really generous in the exam though, so I hope that's still the case 'cause I'm gunna need it xD


You'll have done fine, you don't need more than a page for the ten mark questions, and I only did half of one, (oops, ran out of time to do it :tongue:) and it sounds like you answered the forty marker fine! :smile:

What's your other module?
Reply 186
Original post by vanessadixit
Ah! My class has been referring to 'Early Classical' throughout the year and only last night our teacher emailed us saying 'oh by the way they might use the term 'Transitional' for 'Early Classical' - we were all like :confused:. And I heard it was 80% for an A, but hopefully you're right!


Ahh I wish I'd known that, was such a good period to come up! I taught myself so just stuck to the syllabus that's why I thought referring to it as early classical was a bit mean and I kind of included a bit from everywhere! So so awful. I really hope it's the 70% otherwise I am so screwed!


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Original post by Natterina
You'll have done fine, you don't need more than a page for the ten mark questions, and I only did half of one, (oops, ran out of time to do it :tongue:) and it sounds like you answered the forty marker fine! :smile:

What's your other module?


Tiberius and Claudius; my college has had the worst teacher in the world for it haha.

She introduced herself to the class by saying 'Hi. I'm usually a drama teacher, but the college needed a history teacher and I did a semester or two of this at uni. I failed it though, but I'm sure you guys will be fine' and pretty much told the class to go home every lesson. So... I don't think that's going well either hahaha :tongue:.

And I hope so, like I said I only need a B overall and I got an A and B last year, with an overall grade of B so. I think if I get about a B in Greek, and C in Romans I'll get a B over all. :biggrin:
Original post by MichaelB6
Tiberius and Claudius; my college has had the worst teacher in the world for it haha.

She introduced herself to the class by saying 'Hi. I'm usually a drama teacher, but the college needed a history teacher and I did a semester or two of this at uni. I failed it though, but I'm sure you guys will be fine' and pretty much told the class to go home every lesson. So... I don't think that's going well either hahaha :tongue:.

And I hope so, like I said I only need a B overall and I got an A and B last year, with an overall grade of B so. I think if I get about a B in Greek, and C in Romans I'll get a B over all. :biggrin:


Oh! Yikes, that's pretty erm, well. Sounds like you're doing really well at it though! (Mines a similar situation so I can sympathise, I'm the only one in the class and my teacher has never taught it before, though she did do it at uni) good luck with the Tiberius and Claudius exam, I'm studying it too and it's so hard! The amount of stuff we need to remember is awful!

And by the way, does anyone know if I'm likely to lose marks if I didn't take a balanced approach to the Antigone question?
Original post by Natterina
Oh! Yikes, that's pretty erm, well. Sounds like you're doing really well at it though! (Mines a similar situation so I can sympathise, I'm the only one in the class and my teacher has never taught it before, though she did do it at uni) good luck with the Tiberius and Claudius exam, I'm studying it too and it's so hard! The amount of stuff we need to remember is awful!

And by the way, does anyone know if I'm likely to lose marks if I didn't take a balanced approach to the Antigone question?


what do you mean by balanced approach? :confused: I just mentioned how Antigone was pride filled, then Creon, then mentioned a few points why they were justified. Also mentioned how Haemon and the mum died and they weren't filled with pride or stubborness.
Antigone was technically a martyr who got it wrong and Creon was a tyrant who believed state aw was the way to go, thats how i put it :/
Reply 190
Original post by vanessadixit
I found the Art & Arch. alright! I did vases and free-standing. A bit cheeky of them to ask a question to do with a vase that's not on the syllabus. It kind of slowed me down having to analyse it first, but still doable. Free-standing was a very nice question though. Happy overall!


I agree very cheeky! It just so happened I studied that vase for extra research so i was fine and i was soooo happy with the exekias question I think that many candidates might have been thrown off from the unseen andokides painter vase a couple of my class were.... I did the second essay on Archaic art overall?? Did anyone else do this? If so how did you structure your answer??
Original post by cs95
Did anyone do the Hippolytus context for the Greek tragedies paper? What did anyone write for the question about Theseus' actions being motivated by grief?!


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I did. I divided my answer into two:

The first half dealt with the ways in which grief clearly overrode Theseus' judgement: his hasty decision to exile, his primary insistence on believing Phaedra over Hippolytus, his shock 'If only we could tell a good man from a bad man as we can counterfeit coins' or something to that effect.

In the second half I looked at how other motivations were suggested: Theseus' fear that Hippolytus wanted to usurp the throne, the condemnation of his character: vegetarian, practitioner of Orphic rites, men are just as likely to do this sort of thing as women, I also popped a counter argument for my first section: maybe his hasty decision shows that this was the excuse Theseus was waiting for.

I hope that helps, what did you say? :smile:

Anybody sitting Socrates and Athens on friday? Worrying much?
Original post by mightyscott
what do you mean by balanced approach? :confused: I just mentioned how Antigone was pride filled, then Creon, then mentioned a few points why they were justified. Also mentioned how Haemon and the mum died and they weren't filled with pride or stubborness.
Antigone was technically a martyr who got it wrong and Creon was a tyrant who believed state aw was the way to go, thats how i put it :/


I just said

Antigone and Creon both show excessive pride and arrogance that lead to their downfall and gave examples

I then did the opposite and said it could be argued that they both felt they were merely following the will of the gods, but were wrong.

Then argued against that.
Original post by Ridders2013
I did. I divided my answer into two:

The first half dealt with the ways in which grief clearly overrode Theseus' judgement: his hasty decision to exile, his primary insistence on believing Phaedra over Hippolytus, his shock 'If only we could tell a good man from a bad man as we can counterfeit coins' or something to that effect.

In the second half I looked at how other motivations were suggested: Theseus' fear that Hippolytus wanted to usurp the throne, the condemnation of his character: vegetarian, practitioner of Orphic rites, men are just as likely to do this sort of thing as women, I also popped a counter argument for my first section: maybe his hasty decision shows that this was the excuse Theseus was waiting for.

I hope that helps, what did you say? :smile:

Anybody sitting Socrates and Athens on friday? Worrying much?


I thought the quote about bad men and being able tell counterfeit coins apart but not bad men was from Medea? D:
Original post by Charlotte.e.r
I thought the quote about bad men and being able tell counterfeit coins apart but not bad men was from Medea? D:


Oops a slip of the keyboard though luckily not one I made in the exam, Theseus wishes you could tell liars from their voice but yes you're right, the stamp was Medea, sorry if I worried you. :smile:
I did the Greek tragedy paper today, I've forgotten what I wrote for a lot of it. I managed to get in a few half-quotes and references while talking about 5th Century BC Greek audiences which i'd only read about this morning!

Can anyone please remind me of the wording of the second 40 marker question was? As soon as a leave an exam it disappears from my mind.

Alexander paper on Friday :'(

Woe is me :smile: :smile:
Original post by FabiusMaximus
I did the Greek tragedy paper today, I've forgotten what I wrote for a lot of it. I managed to get in a few half-quotes and references while talking about 5th Century BC Greek audiences which i'd only read about this morning!

Can anyone please remind me of the wording of the second 40 marker question was? As soon as a leave an exam it disappears from my mind.

Alexander paper on Friday :'(

Woe is me :smile: :smile:


It was either how far/to what extent do the main characters in the tragedies deserve what happens to them? Good luck with the Alexander paper! Did you choose Antigone or Hippolytus for Section 1? :smile:


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Original post by hannah_lou
It was either how far/to what extent do the main characters in the tragedies deserve what happens to them? Good luck with the Alexander paper! Did you choose Antigone or Hippolytus for Section 1? :smile:


Hi

Thanks, I honestly forget everything about exams straight away and that leads to nervousness! :smile:

I did Hippolytus, i'd read a lot about it last night so I felt more prepared. I've never really warmed to Antigone anyway. Which did you do? I thought they were good questions, I was praying that choruses weren't going to come up on the 40 markers :smile:

Thanks! Which exam are you sitting?
Original post by FabiusMaximus
Hi

Thanks, I honestly forget everything about exams straight away and that leads to nervousness! :smile:

I did Hippolytus, i'd read a lot about it last night so I felt more prepared. I've never really warmed to Antigone anyway. Which did you do? I thought they were good questions, I was praying that choruses weren't going to come up on the 40 markers :smile:

Thanks! Which exam are you sitting?


Haha don't worry I know how you feel- it's all a blur! Well I hated both but chose Antigone as I liked the 20 marker better. They were ok, could have been worse. I did the same 40 marker as you I thought it was good- god knows why anyone would choose the first one! So was I, the Chorus are difficult to write a lot about. The Aeneid :smile: far easier than Greek Tragedy but more boring haha.


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Original post by hannah_lou
Haha don't worry I know how you feel- it's all a blur! Well I hated both but chose Antigone as I liked the 20 marker better. They were ok, could have been worse. I did the same 40 marker as you I thought it was good- god knows why anyone would choose the first one! So was I, the Chorus are difficult to write a lot about. The Aeneid :smile: far easier than Greek Tragedy but more boring haha.


At least it's done now! The first question seemed to be way too small a subject to get 40 marks out of. The scope of the question wasn't wide enough so I guess it would leave you with little room for terminology etc :/
Everyone in my class did the 2nd one too.

So you've got 2 proper erm "Englishy" (haha) based papers? Sounds tough, I've found Alexander good because it's much more about the history itself which I prefer.

How have you found Classics compared to your other subjects?

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