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Ed excel Chemistry A2 12th June, Wednesday

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Reply 200
NH4Cl ----> (NH4+) + (Cl-)

The NH4+ reacts reversibly with water to produce H3O+.
But I think NH4+ is weaker than CH3COOH, so gives the lowest amount of H+ ?

and NH3 is a weak base, so doesn't produce any H+
Original post by SKK94
[Jan 2013]
Methods for investigating reaction rates include
A colorimetry
B collecting and measuring the volume of a gas
C quenching, followed by titration with acid
D quenching, followed by titration with iodine solution.
Which method would be most suitable to investigate the rate of the following
reactions?
(b) C4H9Br(l) + OH−(aq)  C4H9OH(l) + Br−(aq)

The answer is C
Why is colorimetry not used for this? I thought Br- was coloured?
And what does the acid react with in the titration?


Br- is not coloured, Br2 is coloured
say if OH- is in excess, and reaction is completed
using acid would be a good idea to titrate the unreacted alkali
i think, thats how i make myself understood :P it may not be right
Original post by Amila888
9. This question concerns four solutions, A to D. They were prepared by mixing equal
volumes of 0.2 mol dm–3 solutions of two different substances. The substances were
A HCl(aq) and NaOH(aq)
B HCl(aq) and NaCl(aq)
C NH3(aq) and NH4Cl(aq)
D CH3COOH(aq) and CH3CO2Na(aq)
Select, from A to D, the mixture which would:
(a) have the lowest concentration of hydrogen ions ??

The answer is C.. but why ?


Isn't the answer B? Both HCl & NaCl dissociate completely... therefore Cl- amount doubles.... but volume doubles also so concentration stays the same



Original post by SKK94
[Jan 2013]
Methods for investigating reaction rates include
A colorimetry
B collecting and measuring the volume of a gas
C quenching, followed by titration with acid
D quenching, followed by titration with iodine solution.
Which method would be most suitable to investigate the rate of the following
reactions?
(b) C4H9Br(l) + OH−(aq)  C4H9OH(l) + Br−(aq)

The answer is C
Why is colorimetry not used for this? I thought Br- was coloured?
And what does the acid react with in the titration?


Br- is colourless... & the acid reacts with the OH- ... to form water so it stops the reaction



Also to answer your next question about NH4Cl and ethenoic acid I think it was...
... if in doubt check in data booklet... stronger acids have higher dissociation constants
Reply 203
Original post by SKK94
[Jan 2013]
Methods for investigating reaction rates include
A colorimetry
B collecting and measuring the volume of a gas
C quenching, followed by titration with acid
D quenching, followed by titration with iodine solution.
Which method would be most suitable to investigate the rate of the following
reactions?
(b) C4H9Br(l) + OH−(aq) C4H9OH(l) + Br−(aq)

The answer is C
Why is colorimetry not used for this? I thought Br- was coloured?
And what does the acid react with in the titration?


Br- is a colourless ion in solution . Acid reacts with OH- ions.:colone:
Reply 204
the answer to that Cl- concentration is C :s-smilie: .... i have no idea how it is true
Reply 205
Original post by Amila888
the answer to that Cl- concentration is C :s-smilie: .... i have no idea how it is true


Really? I'm sure it's B! :tongue:

edit: oh for the lowest concentration of H+ yes it would be C because NH4Cl + NH3 forms an alkaline buffer?

NH4Cl -> NH4+ + Cl-

NH3 + H+ <--> NH4+

I'm not sure actually :/
(edited 10 years ago)
Original post by jethacan
Really? I'm sure it's B! :tongue:


Pretty sure it is B too, C makes no sense... I think AS01 asked the same question yesterday & said it was B in the MS
Reply 207
Original post by posthumus
Pretty sure it is B too, C makes no sense... I think AS01 asked the same question yesterday & said it was B in the MS


I just realised it's asking for the lowest concentration of H+, it's not the same as the one yesterday :colondollar:
Original post by jethacan
I just realised it's asking for the lowest concentration of H+, it's not the same as the one yesterday :colondollar:


Lol I didn't even read the whole question, I assumed it was lol :biggrin:

NH4Cl weak dissociation... other one has no Cl-
Reply 209
Original post by StellaRawr11
Br- is not coloured, Br2 is coloured
say if OH- is in excess, and reaction is completed
using acid would be a good idea to titrate the unreacted alkali
i think, thats how i make myself understood :P it may not be right



Original post by posthumus


Br- is colourless... & the acid reacts with the OH- ... to form water so it stops the reaction





Original post by Amila888
Br- is a colourless ion in solution . Acid reacts with OH- ions.:colone:


Oh! :redface:
Thanks! :biggrin:


I'm off. Exam's 1.5 hours!
Good Luck everyone :smile:
Reply 210
Ok then guys.. good luck to you all ! hoping for an easy paper :biggrin: ... Lets discuss this paper sum time later. u knw, after 48 hours i think.
Good luck everyone ! :biggrin: Speak to ya guys soon :smile: ...
Reply 212
How did it go guys?

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Reply 213
Original post by AS01
How did it go guys?

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I thought it went fairly well, answered all the questions, feeling confident that I will at least improve my U from last time. I'm not too good at maths so it took me ages to work out how to convert pKa back to Ka so I could calculate the pH, but I got there eventually.
Imagine my horror when I got to the last question and was missing my ruler!
Luckily the data booklets provided were backed with card so I used that instead! :cool:

Hope everyone else found it ok, it seemed a lot nicer than the January exam!
Reply 214
I thought the exam was pretty difficult..
Reply 215
Original post by MrProff
I thought it went fairly well, answered all the questions, feeling confident that I will at least improve my U from last time. I'm not too good at maths so it took me ages to work out how to convert pKa back to Ka so I could calculate the pH, but I got there eventually.
Imagine my horror when I got to the last question and was missing my ruler!
Luckily the data booklets provided were backed with card so I used that instead! :cool:

Hope everyone else found it ok, it seemed a lot nicer than the January exam!


Ya I think it was alright I messed up order question again! :frown: :frown:
The rest went good. Lol lucky you! We dont have those kind of data booklet. What do u think grade boundaries gonna be?

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Reply 216
Original post by nnekaoke
I thought the exam was pretty difficult..


I wouldnt say that the paper was easy and it was weird type! That ethanedioic acid question! Took me a while to figure out what the hell am I supposed to write lol

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Reply 217
Original post by AS01
I wouldnt say that the paper was easy and it was weird type! That ethanedioic acid question! Took me a while to figure out what the hell am I supposed to write lol

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I think once you realised it was just a weak acid but both ends could dissociate to give 2 H+ like sulfuric does, but when the sodium is added on one end it only dissociates one H+ i think, thats what I went on about anyway lol
Reply 218
Original post by MrProff
I think once you realised it was just a weak acid but both ends could dissociate to give 2 H+ like sulfuric does, but when the sodium is added on one end it only dissociates one H+ i think, thats what I went on about anyway lol


Yeah that's what it is but took me a while. Can u remember all of the question?
I wanted more organic chem!

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Reply 219
Original post by AS01
Yeah that's what it is but took me a while. Can u remember all of the question?
I wanted more organic chem!

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There was some stuff on that crazy long chemical..Sodium Hydrogenethanedioic acid maybe?

I think with that the thing was it would have only donated one H+ in equilibria cos the other side was a methanoate group so wouldnt have affected it?

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