Why do Internation Students have such a Reputation?

How do these students with poor English understand lectures or write essays? I hear that international students get good grades so they must have good English.

B) a vastly disproportionate number if people at my uni caught cheating are internationals (this was in the student paper earlier this year; I'll find the link if you wish).

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Hi! I'll be attending university in September and from reading through the forums, I find that the international students seem to:



This is probably just a generalisation and just the impression I got from other posts here.

So, has anyone got some good stories about sharing with international students? Why do international students get a reputation of being antisocial? If you are an international student, what's your take on it?

Please provide the evidence for B) being a factor in the statement in question.

It's not to say that all international students cheat, or anything like that, but the disproportionality is striking
http://mancunion.com/2012/02/16/plagiarism-is-a-result-of-faculties%E2%80%99-%E2%80%9Cinability-to-cater-for-international-students%E2%80%9D/

It's not to say that all international students cheat, or anything like that, but the disproportionality is striking
http://mancunion.com/2012/02/16/plagiarism-is-a-result-of-faculties%E2%80%99-%E2%80%9Cinability-to-cater-for-international-students%E2%80%9D/

Thats quite sad. I myself an international student. I studied for quite some time in another major English speaking country. Unfortunately I havent seen or ever heard of such cheating. In fact not ever saw anybody got caught in exam or for plagiarism.

And about plagiarism, its true that unis most times don't explain how to put reference correctly. In my 1st year 1st semester in my 1st assignment, I was sort of informally told I plagiarised and my assignment copy as checked twice. When I told them I did referenced it at the end of the assignment instead of Harvard styled, they accepted my assignment and I remember getting 82 in that. So, yes referencing and plagiarism is a sort of problem I can say more than 50%+ international students faces when they start their uni in UK/USA or other country.

And about exam, its shocking. I could have never thought people will actually think of cheating and passing in exam. And yes, about the cheating they explained about notes in eraser boxes, its shocking that students can actually think of cheating and passing in The University of Manchester exam. What sort of faculty sets up question paper where you can bring notes to cheat and pass ? I can't think of engineering students passing exam by bringing notes !!! In my course even if its open book, I think it will hardly matter lol. The University of Manchester has more to blame than the students here. They should not set up questions where people can bring in notes and take advantages in exam. The exam paper should be unseen and analytically challenging instead of memorise and pass.

The exams ARE unseen and analytically challenging, certainly in social sciences (my department), but it doesn't stop people trying to cheat. Often I think it's a last ditch act of desperation on students who believe that they will fail otherwise. I did once see two students (of East Asian appearance, though I didn't actually know them personally so I don't know if they were international or British born) pulled out of a politics exam for cheating. From the looks of it, they had earphones in. In science and engineering subjects, they often have to memorise formulae, so they could cheat by putting those formulae on bits of paper, for instance, though that would not be sufficient to pass at all.

It's very sad, but I think that often it is partially the fault of universities, who take students with subpar English skills to act as cash cows. In some cases, it will be the case that the students cheated in their IELTS / TOEFL exam (see http://mancunion.com/2012/09/27/professional-impersonators-sit-exams-in-place-of-students/http://mancunion.com/2012/09/27/professional-impersonators-sit-exams-in-place-of-students/). I don't know about the extent of that problem, but I rather think that the universities should be retesting them once they get to campus, and if they fail putting them on a foundation English course. Those students then can't study properly in English, and so believe that they are going to fail, and cheat. It's not acting in the best interests of the international students at all, and I really do dislike the practice (NB this isn't a Manchester-specific problem - it's just about everywhere).

very interesting. probally because they feel that they are under so much more pressure from back home to do well and some of them might struggle to write essays under pressure.

i dont understand though why other countries dont explain about referencing, anyone plagarising material regardless of where they are in the world is bad.

I do! I think the pub is a nice place to socialise, but I'm not really big on clubbing. Sometimes I just prefer to stay in and watch a good film of have a good chat over coffee and cakes.