I'm size 8 so not a real woman?

You weren't insulting me. But other people on this thread. You've called a girl unattractive without even knowing what she looked like, and God knows what this weird argument is about with Riku. As far as I can see, he commented on the thread then got pounced on!

It's all projected insecurity. I make a statement then they take it as if I personally insulted them, proceed to insult and then get bitchy when I say something back. It's ridiculous. Just like that RIKU fellow, he insulted for no reason whatsoever but when I pretty accurately described what he is, then they get upset again.

I don't want to become entangled in this petty argument, but for the record, being called "unattractive" isn't really an insult if you're a mature person who realises that some people will be unattractive to other people. You can move on, not take it so personally, and find someone who does find you attractive, if it bothers you that much. You can't be universally attractive, there is no such thing.

And believe it or not, there are actually more important things than being attractive. So grow up.

No, his viewpoint is universal, I'm talking about the way he wrote it by keeping it real and not sugarcoating it which comes of as you said being a sexist pig. Middle class men don't like ironboards too but they would sugarcoat it by stating things like (using Riku's quote as a example) "Much as I like dat ass, not every girl is going to do squats or be into that kinda thing".

Yes I know, but the vast majority of those image depict the more curvier aspects of women. Those girls in those magazine go and have fake boobs for a reason. It's all supply and demand. There isn't that much of a demand for some skinny naked chick with small breasts and not so completely flat ass.

I know and I stress it wasn't said to me. However he did make out that most men wouldn't find this individual attractive and implied her boyfriend was settling. Which is pretty damn insulting in my book.

No, his viewpoint is universal, I'm talking about the way he wrote it by keeping it real and not sugarcoating it which comes of as you said being a sexist pig. Middle class men don't like ironboards too but they would sugarcoat it by stating things like (using Riku's quote as a example) "Much as I like dat ass, not every girl is going to do squats or be into that kinda thing".

So... that's just his opinion. He's entitled to have it, and you're entitled to laugh at him for having it. But surely you realise you're not going to make him agree with you by arguing here? Just leave it, I say. Anyone who makes generalisations that large is obviously not going to be worth arguing with.

Not wanting to be too obvious but I'm probably what you guys would call an ironing board (despite generally being regarded as normal or slim /curvy by most people) and I can safely say it's never held me back with guys. I get enough unwanted attention, and no this isn't from desperate drunk guys. I also have friends with similar figures and again they are not short of male admiration, and no they don't do it to every girl because I also have plenty of female friends who are virgins and not through choice.

I like looking at hench ripped guys, I find a big physique attractive. However I know real life isn't based on what looks nice. There's more to someone than their body shape!

Where has anyone claimed it was going to hold you back? 2ndclass even agreed with me that " Sometimes your sex drive is higher than your need to maintain your standard". As much as I'd like to have sex with only girls with 9/10 bodies, I don't have that luxury and thus don't mind having sex with a girl as long as she's not too fat or too skinny. Also, no offense but unwanted attention from guys isn't something to be proud of. Even the ugliest of girls get white-knighted occasionally, doesn't really tell you much.

I just said, no it doesn't happen to every girl!

I'm not going to go into details because it'll sound boastful and you won't believe me. Why would guys say a girl is 'fit' to his mates if he had no intention of getting with her? Surely in instances such as these it is probably because he thinks she's fit. You're basically making out that every guy I've ever been with has been settling for me cos they can't get any better, yet I've been with guys who were very attractive and (obviously) ones that weren't so. Besides I'm not just talking about sex, I know guys lower their standard for one night stands. I'm talking dating and relationships. Would you really have a proper relationship with a girl who's body you thought was sub-par? Probably not.

The best part of all this is I know I'm out of both of your leagues anyway. Not sure why I'm wasting my time trying to argue with two frustrated boys.

I've seen it happen to a lot ugly girls, don't get happs.

There's a difference between being fit and being ideal. That girl with that ass you posted is fit but she isn't ideal. Do you really think you match your boyfriends ideal person? That's pretty arrogant tbh. Yes they settle, we all settle, I'm not saying that I'm going to be a girl's ideal. The vast majority of both men and women aren't ideal hence it would be unrealistic for them to only chase the ideals because that would just result in majority of the population being single.

There you go again getting pathetically personal. Big whoop, you're out of my league, do you want a medal? I don't give a **** because I'm secure enough and have enough experience with women to know that I can get some pretty good looking women which means I'm either charming or handsome, don't really care either way, end result is the same.

Yes everyone has 'ideals' or 'fantasies' but I still find realistic bodies attractive. I find the PERSON attractive, not just their bits and bobs. It's not settling.

I edited my post as it does come across as unnecessary. It's late I dunno. However I am trying to make a point, like you, that I get some pretty hot guys so I must be either hot myself or charming? You'll probably say they are just settling, and in that case all the attractive women you've bedded probably were too!

Edit: just been on your profile and seen you're only 20.most guys of 20 think like you. I don't judge you for your opinions, you're only young!

Edit: just been on your profile and seen you're only 20.most guys of 20 think like you. I don't judge you for your opinions, you're only young!

Also, I think someone earlier on this thread said something like 'it's immature to be offended by someone saying you're unattractive, everyone is entitled to their opinion'. There's a distinction between being called 'unattractive', and someone saying they're not attracted to you. Unattractive is usually an objective thing, it is not recognising that anyone else can be attracted to this person.

Your current size is GREAT, keep it up! If only more girls were like you.

I hope your not being sarcastic.

Not at all. Slim girls are great. Look at all the hottest East European / Russian girls, they're all about that size.

Obviously, being size 6-8 means you're unlikely to naturally have breasts beyond a C cup, but that's fine for most guy who's doesn't view that as the highest priority.

Thing is, most girls who are size 6-8 pull off the look really well. Much fewer girls are able to pull of larger sizes looking good, ie 10+