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Original post by BaconEmperor
Retourner belongs to a small group of verbs that can take BOTH avoir and être depending on the context. For example:

I returned (home)
Je suis retourné (chez moi)

I returned the book
J'ai retourné le livre

Because in your example retourner has a direct object then avoir is used in this context so the translation of "the book was returned by Paul" is:
Le livre a été retourné par Paul

This article explains it quite well :smile:
http://french.about.com/od/grammar/a/etreverbs_3.htm


I've looked at that before too, d'oh! (I couldn't think of a decent example to explain my confusion).
But I've got it now! It's hard to explain why I was confused, but I get it now, 'être' is conjugated according to the tense.
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Original post by L'Evil Fish
Followed you too!:biggrin:

Anyone else here?


I followed everyone from here that I know of :tongue:

Original post by L'Evil Fish
Is the speech for Italian crap on yours too?


Yes! I was doing the 'unlocking all levels' feature and I literally couldn't understand half of what was being said :s-smilie: Maybe it's because it's the Beta version...

Original post by L'Evil Fish
:lol: I like MFL teachers... They appreciate linguists... :ahee:


Me too!! All of my MFL teachers are really nice!! (saying that, a majority of teachers at my school are nice)

Original post by sunfowers01
Any Italian learners here?


Me!! I just finished the GCSE, starting the A-Level next year :biggrin:

Original post by Gilo98
After all this talk about it, *je pense que je devrais obtenir Duolingo


Oui! Duolingo est genial! You'll have to tell us what your name is :tongue:
Original post by EmilyJayne14
IYes! I was doing the 'unlocking all levels' feature and I literally couldn't understand half of what was being said :s-smilie: Maybe it's because it's the Beta version...



Me too!! All of my MFL teachers are really nice!! (saying that, a majority of teachers at my school are nice)


I couldn't unlock the levels because I couldn't understand the bloody woman!:mad: :mmm:
Original post by L'Evil Fish
I couldn't unlock the levels because I couldn't understand the bloody woman!:mad: :mmm:


Is it really that bad? Not speaking Italian, I wouldn't know, but....


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Original post by aasvogel
I've looked at that before too, d'oh! (I couldn't think of a decent example to explain my confusion).
But I've got it now! It's hard to explain why I was confused, but I get it now, 'être' is conjugated according to the tense.


Yeah the passive is formed with the correct conjugation of être plus the past participle of the verb.
Feel free to ask any more grammar questions, I love grammar, I find it to be the easiest part of learning languages (I'm always told how weird this makes me but on here it's surprisingly common :tongue:)
Original post by EmilyJayne14
I followed everyone from here that I know of :tongue:



Yes! I was doing the 'unlocking all levels' feature and I literally couldn't understand half of what was being said :s-smilie: Maybe it's because it's the Beta version...



Me too!! All of my MFL teachers are really nice!! (saying that, a majority of teachers at my school are nice)



Me!! I just finished the GCSE, starting the A-Level next year :biggrin:



Oui! Duolingo est genial! You'll have to tell us what your name is :tongue:


Is Italian the beta version? I tried using Duolingo a few months ago but remember finding the woman impossible to understand, I never realised it wasn't the final version though :s-smilie:
Original post by tess_rach
Is it really that bad? Not speaking Italian, I wouldn't know, but....


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It's muffled, she makes weird noises and it's just crap
Original post by L'Evil Fish
It's muffled, she makes weird noises and it's just crap


I see what you mean now :-)


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Original post by tess_rach
I see what you mean now :-)


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:yep:

French and Spanish are a okay!

Portuguese is weird too
Original post by L'Evil Fish
:yep:

French and Spanish are a okay!

Portuguese is weird too


I don't do Portuguese - only French, Spanish, German and Italian :-)


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Original post by tess_rach
I don't do Portuguese - only French, Spanish, German and Italian :-)


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Me either but :tongue:

I've given up on German :lol:
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Original post by L'Evil Fish
I couldn't unlock the levels because I couldn't understand the bloody woman!:mad: :mmm:


It took me nearly all of my allowed attempts to do it :mad: It's really computerised- like the Welsh Google Translate voice!!

Original post by BaconEmperor
Is Italian the beta version? I tried using Duolingo a few months ago but remember finding the woman impossible to understand, I never realised it wasn't the final version though :s-smilie:


Yeah, it is. Hopefully they'll manage to develop a proper version soon!!

Original post by L'Evil Fish
Portuguese is weird too


Probably because Portuguese is the Beta version too!
Original post by EmilyJayne14
It took me nearly all of my allowed attempts to do it :mad: It's really computerised- like the Welsh Google Translate voice!!



Yeah, it is. Hopefully they'll manage to develop a proper version soon!!



Probably because Portuguese is the Beta version too!


When will they be normal?:colonhash:

Once your locked out, it is forever :frown:
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Original post by L'Evil Fish
When will they be normal?:colonhash:

Once your locked out, it is forever :frown:


I have no idea...

What?? :confused:
Original post by EmilyJayne14
I have no idea...

What?? :confused:


If you run out of attempts you can't ever unlock it
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Original post by L'Evil Fish
If you run out of attempts you can't ever unlock it


I swear you can, you just have to wait a while...

But if so I'm lucky that I did it on my last attempt then :tongue:
Original post by EmilyJayne14
I swear you can, you just have to wait a while...

But if so I'm lucky that I did it on my last attempt then :tongue:


Nope! I've lost all the key holes :redface:
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Original post by L'Evil Fish
Nope! I've lost all the key holes :redface:


Oh dear :redface:
I found a mistake in this...

They're calling the Plu Perfect the Past Perfect :redface: or is that right in Spanish?:tongue:
Reply 4479
Original post by L'Evil Fish
Okay, I could obtain it later.... For the moment, German.

?

Was aiming for 'I might get it later' but not quite sure, hmmm :confused:

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