I wasn't truthful and now I regret it, please help!

It's a white lie anywhere except academia. That's good enough for me.

Times are tough and people like him should try to help themselves, not make things harder.

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say the chances of anyone finding out about him is close to nil as long as he doesn't go on to become a Prof or something in the future.

I guarantee you that he will lose his place if he confesses. It might be the best choice in a perfect world but we clearly dont live in one.

I am very unlikely to go into a career in academia. I was just want to get a good degree from a good university under my belt with as little fuss as possible. I agree that I doubt the university will ever find out but what makes you guarantee that I will lose my place. I feel as if I stand a 50 50 chance if I confess. As much as the moral factor is an issue for me, it won't eat away at my soul or whatever if I don't let them know. At the same time, it was a great experience for me living in the states since it made me a part of who I am. It would just hurt to pretend that it never happened. The thing is I probably couldn't do it and with people I make close relationships with at my new uni I will definitely tell them all about it.

I am very unlikely to go into a career in academia. I was just want to get a good degree from a good university under my belt with as little fuss as possible. I agree that I doubt the university will ever find out but what makes you guarantee that I will lose my place. I feel as if I stand a 50 50 chance if I confess. As much as the moral factor is an issue for me, it won't eat away at my soul or whatever if I don't let them know. At the same time, it was a great experience for me living in the states since it made me a part of who I am. It would just hurt to pretend that it never happened. The thing is I probably couldn't do it and with people I make close relationships with at my new uni I will definitely tell them all about it.

I'm a pretty understanding guy and even I wouldn't let you in if you confessed. Mostly because other people will be looking at me and judging me on my decision.

Basically once you put it on record, there are a lot more eyes on you and the pressure to kick you out comes from several sources.

It goes above the admission tutors, they have to explain to people higher up the chain about why they let someone in who lied about his past and committed plagiarism. That's not something most people will be willing to do since it ruins their reputation as well.

Some tutors might even feel uncomfortable working with you and ask that you not be admitted. Academia treats this as a huge offense.

Hi there, Here is my situation and I would appreciate any pragmatic advice or useful perspectives. The last two years I have been at a higher education institution in the states, pursuing a NCAA basketball career. Things didn't work out and the bottom line is that I ended up getting kicked out for plagiarism this May. Obviously not a great place to be but luckily being a Brit and having good A levels (A*,A,B), I decided to apply late through UCAS. The only thing is that in the heat of the moment I decided to lie on personal statement and excluded the fact that I had already been in university abroad for the last two years saying instead that I had been working. This is an undeniable dishonest comment which I knowingly wrote. I ended receiving an unconditional offer for my first choice university which I was obviously extremely lucky given the circumstances. But now I really wish I had given the full truth from the beginning. Firstly because, the idea of starting from scratch after working so hard for 2 years, despite making some silly mistakes during that time, makes me feel ill and secondly because I don't want to feel like I'm living a lie when I go out there. Do you think there is any chance that my university will forgive my lack of honesty if I come clean now? I know that they have the right to kick me off the course if they find out something wasn't true on my application. Should I take that risk? Is it even worth it, since I'm not sure if they will even accept what I had during my time in the states to allow me to go straight into the 2nd year. My ideal outcome would be to start in the second year of my course. Looking at the course modules and comparing them to the modules I have completed already, I know that I have a solid enough foundation to do so. But is this too much to ask given how I screwed up and should I just be happy to be going to a top uni and keep my mouth shut? The thing is that I don't want to think of the last two years as a waste and sweep it under the rug as it never happened. If I ended up getting kicked off the course, do you think any other university will look at me during clearing? Really would appreciate any comments, thank you

Hi there, Here is my situation and I would appreciate any pragmatic advice or useful perspectives. The last two years I have been at a higher education institution in the states, pursuing a NCAA basketball career. Things didn't work out and the bottom line is that I ended up getting kicked out for plagiarism this May. Obviously not a great place to be but luckily being a Brit and having good A levels (A*,A,B), I decided to apply late through UCAS. The only thing is that in the heat of the moment I decided to lie on personal statement and excluded the fact that I had already been in university abroad for the last two years saying instead that I had been working. This is an undeniable dishonest comment which I knowingly wrote. I ended receiving an unconditional offer for my first choice university which I was obviously extremely lucky given the circumstances. But now I really wish I had given the full truth from the beginning. Firstly because, the idea of starting from scratch after working so hard for 2 years, despite making some silly mistakes during that time, makes me feel ill and secondly because I don't want to feel like I'm living a lie when I go out there. Do you think there is any chance that my university will forgive my lack of honesty if I come clean now? I know that they have the right to kick me off the course if they find out something wasn't true on my application. Should I take that risk? Is it even worth it, since I'm not sure if they will even accept what I had during my time in the states to allow me to go straight into the 2nd year. My ideal outcome would be to start in the second year of my course. Looking at the course modules and comparing them to the modules I have completed already, I know that I have a solid enough foundation to do so. But is this too much to ask given how I screwed up and should I just be happy to be going to a top uni and keep my mouth shut? The thing is that I don't want to think of the last two years as a waste and sweep it under the rug as it never happened. If I ended up getting kicked off the course, do you think any other university will look at me during clearing? Really would appreciate any comments, thank you

Being honest in this situation isn't a good idea. You will more than likely get kicked off. They really don't check these things as much as they make out and I imagine it would be hard to find out you went to uni in a different country.

You now have the opportunity for a fresh start at a good Uni. Just do everything by the book this time. Starting in first year doesn't have to be a bad thing. You can pass well in all your modules and become even more prepared to do well in the next year and freshers is the most fun part.

All of you guys getting on your moral high horse. Who is he hurting in this scenario. If he won't plagiarise again and knows he made a mistake I don't see the issue.

I am curious though since I live and study in North America.

Most, if not all universities here do not expel a person for a single incident of plagiarism, especially if you are a first/second year. The punishment ranges from a warning to a 6 month suspension. Almost never is the student expelled.

Only Graduate students are expelled out right since plagiarism for a person working towards a PhD is a huge deal.

An immature undergraduate though, is almost always given a second chance as long as they ask for forgiveness.

How did you manage this? What did you do exactly?

You're right it wasn't only one incident. Of what the americans term 'academic dishonor' .I really did screw up hard whilst out in the states which makes even more of a challenge to tell a university about it. In all honesty though most of what I did was not malicious and was due either to laziness or ignorance of the rules. The first incident was doing a homework with a fellow student, which in other classes was allowed but apparently not in this class (math/physics class). Next I was caught talking in an exam, the same week freshman year, with the same student in the same class. Actually a fellow student told on us to the professor. Next year a lazily failed to citate a piece a short lab report that was doing a last minute.com. It was like a sentence and a picture that I didn't citate. And finally after I thought I had put all that stupid stuff behind me I was told by the department in literally the last day of the semester that they concluded that my computer program I had turned in for the final was of too high quality to be my own work. Obviously my past didn't reflect to well on me during the hearing and the professor did a good job of making look like I did it. In all honesty it was 100 percent my own work, for what it is worth. a wrote an appeal letter which was thrown out and a week later I was told never to return. So there you go that's the full story.

You're right it wasn't only one incident. Of what the americans term 'academic dishonor' .I really did screw up hard whilst out in the states which makes even more of a challenge to tell a university about it. In all honesty though most of what I did was not malicious and was due either to laziness or ignorance of the rules. The first incident was doing a homework with a fellow student, which in other classes was allowed but apparently not in this class (math/physics class). Next I was caught talking in an exam, the same week freshman year, with the same student in the same class. Actually a fellow student told on us to the professor. Next year a lazily failed to citate a piece a short lab report that was doing a last minute.com. It was like a sentence and a picture that I didn't citate. And finally after I thought I had put all that stupid stuff behind me I was told by the department in literally the last day of the semester that they concluded that my computer program I had turned in for the final was of too high quality to be my own work. Obviously my past didn't reflect to well on me during the hearing and the professor did a good job of making look like I did it. In all honesty it was 100 percent my own work, for what it is worth. a wrote an appeal letter which was thrown out and a week later I was told never to return. So there you go that's the full story.

You're right it wasn't only one incident. Of what the americans term 'academic dishonor' .I really did screw up hard whilst out in the states which makes even more of a challenge to tell a university about it. In all honesty though most of what I did was not malicious and was due either to laziness or ignorance of the rules. The first incident was doing a homework with a fellow student, which in other classes was allowed but apparently not in this class (math/physics class). Next I was caught talking in an exam, the same week freshman year, with the same student in the same class. Actually a fellow student told on us to the professor. Next year I lazily failed to citate a short lab report that Iwas doing at last minute.com. It was like a sentence and a picture that I didn't citate. I was lucky not to get suspended at this point. This all happened early on in the year and I thought I had changed peoples opinion of me by working my arse off. And finally after I thought I had put all that stupid stuff behind me I was told by the department in literally the last day of the semester that they concluded that my computer program I had turned in for the final was of too high quality to be my own work. Obviously my past didn't reflect to well on me during the hearing and the professor did a good job of making look like I did it. Btw it was the same professor each time. In all honesty it was 100 percent my own work, for what it is worth. I wrote a very long appeal letter which was thrown out and a week later I was told never to return. So there you go that's the full story. in the previous 3 incidents I was cooperative and admitted to what I did. I received empathy because of this. The final time however I absolutely denied all of the allegations and it was tough for me to contain my emotions. I was just so angry at my professor who thought he was being such a hardo. He reasoned well and was well prepared and I hadn't. At the school I went to (private and rich) the admin would never go against the opinion of the professor no matter how little evidence the professor had. And I didn't know how to defend myself. Something which I learned through the process. (sorry for the ramble)

wow i LOL'd irl.