The Manchester United Thread X

Chelsea apparently hijacking Willian! That means a stay for Rooney if true! fingers crossed!

Bale to Madrid, ronaldo return?

Chelsea apparently hijacking Willian! That means a stay for Rooney if true! fingers crossed!

That would be kinda stupid of Chelsea unless their willing to get rid of one of their midfielders maybe Mata or Moses who seem to have fallen behind the pecking order under Mourinho. They don't really need him though.

Mata and Moses are the two players that won't go. Moses for the homegrown rules is vital for us, he gives us a counter attacking approach with that workrate of his and selling Mata is stupid. One what top team needs Mata that will afford 35m for him? Two why would we weaken ourselves getting an inferior player to Mata when he needs to settle, doesn't have the influence mata has, it's just a stupid transfer and mourinho knows that. It's not like we need to generate cash in wages either.

Mata's been injured most of pre-season and isn't fully fit after coming back from confeds cup.

You talk as if Chelsea's transfer policy is logical...

Well if you've seen what we've done the whole summer and overall the past 2 seasons(bar the sturridge transfer) it's been rather logical, getting rid of deadwood and replacing them with young talent and plugging the obvious hole in our squad if possible, but go on and beat a dead horse that's been done to death.

You'll probably say the same for city this season.

How have Chelsea plugged their holes when their holes are cm and a striker and they've signed none of those...

Lol why would i say the same about city...

How have Chelsea plugged their holes when their holes are cm and a striker and they've signed none of those...

All they've signed is attacking midfielders and now they're going for another hence not logical. And your history of singing unneccessary players (Shevchenko, Torres) shows that theres obv a lack of logic somewhere in these transfer dealings.

And its great you're signing young talent shame that you never play any of them and just sell them off after a while.

As they payed a lot of money this summer, sorting out their problems. E.g. the fernandinho haters.

Not true, van ginkel, lukaku back from loan, de bruyne back from loan(who played CM for bremen) and I explained the logic in the signings, our problem last season was that an extended run in means that benayoun/marin got appearances in essential prem games, now we play around 60 games a season on average. 4 competent attacking midfielders are enough.

I highly doubt we'll be getting willian, just sounds like the 'mata to united' and luiz to arsenal rumours just an agent ploy or some guy talking out of his arse.

Finally the last bit is nonsense, so hazard, mata, lukaku, de bruyne, luiz etc who we bought young weren't played, and ryan bertrand gets a lot of games. But hey lets say that we just make luxury signings most of the time. The only real cock up after the torres transfer has been sturridge. I could say matic too but we got luiz in the deal who probably is better in the DM position anyway and we needed a CB badly at the time.

Am I the only one who think Willians overrated - thus while Tottenham might appreciate adding a bit more quality - he'd be fighting alongside Moses in the Chelsea team?

City signed well and plugged their holes Chelsea didnt.

You've strengthened your strongest area, yes it will be good in those odd european games when you need to rotate but its hardly ur main weakness and its not really plugging a hole when that hole is full of already world class players. And De Bruyne is an attacking midfielder he can play cm but doesnt make him one, like playing Kagawa at cm hes not ur long term solution there.

Sorry Hazard and Mata werent young when you signed them they were already world class players playing at their peak, doesnt count as bringing through youth. Lukaku didnt play at all since hes came De Bruyne loaned out twice McEachren, Lucas Piazon, Sturridge, Chalobah etc all never get played this is my point. Maybe this season more youth will get a chance but its not really filling your holes they need to play consistently to get to the level you need but they arent at that level yet and thus they arent the quality you need in those areas to solve your problems

I haven't seen anything to suggest he's worth the £30-35m being thrown around, and no, I don't think he'd be starting at Chelsea. He plays on the left anwyay, so he'd be up against Hazard and the newly signed Schurrle.

Bale to Madrid, ronaldo return?

City signed well and plugged their holes Chelsea didnt.

You've strengthened your strongest area, yes it will be good in those odd european games when you need to rotate but its hardly ur main weakness and its not really plugging a hole when that hole is full of already world class players. And De Bruyne is an attacking midfielder he can play cm but doesnt make him one, like playing Kagawa at cm hes not ur long term solution there.

Sorry Hazard and Mata werent young when you signed them they were already world class players playing at their peak, doesnt count as bringing through youth. Lukaku didnt play at all since hes came De Bruyne loaned out twice McEachren, Lucas Piazon, Sturridge, Chalobah etc all never get played this is my point. Maybe this season more youth will get a chance but its not really filling your holes they need to play consistently to get to the level you need but they arent at that level yet and thus they arent the quality you need in those areas to solve your problems

Moyes press conference should be tomorrow morning, still don't know why he didn't do one for the Swansea match but hope to hear his thoughts on the bids for Fellaini/Baines and not liking Martinez too much with his comments - he seems to be stoking it up more rather than downplaying and focusing on the football.