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Philosophy - Oxford or Cambridge or other? best university

Hi I was wondering if anyone could help me decide what I want to apply for.
Firstly grades:
GCES - 6A*s, 3As
AS -
Critical thinking - A
geography - A
A2 (achieved)
A* - biology (551/600)
A* - history (397/400)
A* - RS: Philosophy and ethics (367/400)
EPQ - extended project A
AQA English Bacc - Distinction

1) Do you think my grades are high enough to have a chance for getting into oxbridge for philosophy considering the low number of GCSEs I took?

2) is the cambridge philosophy very mathematically based and is it harder to get in than oxford philosophy and theology? so will not taking maths beyond GCSE give me an disadvantage at application stage?

3) Do cambridge care more about A-level grades, and therefore do I stand a better chance of getting in? apparently your grades just get you the interview at oxford and then you are judged from there, whereas at cambridge you can get an offer pretty much on good results alone as long as you don't completely bomb the interview.

4) will not having a GCSE in a modern lanugage be a serious disadvantage?
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Original post by theosjs95
Hi I was wondering if anyone could help me decide what I want to apply for.
Firstly grades:
GCES - 6A*s, 3As
AS -
Critical thinking - A
geography - A
A2 (achieved)
A* - biology (551/600)
A* - history (397/400)
A* - RS: Philosophy and ethics (367/400)
EPQ - extended project A
AQA English Bacc - Distinction

1) Do you think my grades are high enough to have a chance for getting into oxbridge for philosophy considering the low number of GCSEs I took?

2) is the cambridge philosophy very mathematically based and is it harder to get in than oxford philosophy and theology? so will not taking maths beyond GCSE give me an disadvantage at application stage?

3) Do cambridge care more about A-level grades, and therefore do I stand a better chance of getting in? apparently your grades just get you the interview at oxford and then you are judged from there, whereas at cambridge you can get an offer pretty much on good results alone as long as you don't completely bomb the interview.

4) will not having a GCSE in a modern lanugage be a serious disadvantage?

1) should be fine considering your A level grades
2) no idea
3)Cambridge cares about ums a lot I've heard
4) only if you want to go to UCL
Reply 3
I don't have any direct experience of the Cambridge philosophy course, but my impression is that it is similar to Oxford's. As far as maths goes, you will have to study elementary logic, which is somewhat mathematical, but not having any maths beyond GCSE won't hinder you in that. And I definitely don't think they'll want all applicants to have maths beyond GCSE.
Original post by theosjs95
1) Do you think my grades are high enough to have a chance for getting into oxbridge for philosophy considering the low number of GCSEs I took?
You took plenty of GCSEs and got great grades :smile:

Original post by theosjs95
2) is the cambridge philosophy very mathematically based and is it harder to get in than oxford philosophy and theology? so will not taking maths beyond GCSE give me an disadvantage at application stage?
I don't know about Cambridge's philosophy course much, but as long as you aren't afraid to think logically then you should be fine.

Original post by theosjs95
3) Do cambridge care more about A-level grades, and therefore do I stand a better chance of getting in? apparently your grades just get you the interview at oxford and then you are judged from there, whereas at cambridge you can get an offer pretty much on good results alone as long as you don't completely bomb the interview.
At both universities the interview is important, and at both universities the interview isn't the only factor :smile:

Original post by theosjs95
4) will not having a GCSE in a modern lanugage be a serious disadvantage?
Definitely not.


The important thing you to consider is which course you want to study! Do you want to study theology as well as philosophy?
Reply 5
lol at TSR study helper, so irrelevant
Original post by theosjs95

4) will not having a GCSE in a modern lanugage be a serious disadvantage?


Something you should be aware of is that the Oxford P&T course will require that you study for at least a year one of Hebrew, Greek, Arabic, Pali (but what this?), or Sanskrit.***

I don't think not having studied a modern language even to GCSE will be a disadvantage in admissions, but I wonder what was implied by your choosing against doing so (you presumably had the option...) and whether the factors informing that choice might make the P&T course seem less attractive. Oxford P&T has a compulsory language-study component, is the short of it.

Of course, if the reason for which you don't have a modern language is that you passed them up for latin and/or greek then the above was hardly worth my writing out.

*** http://www.theology.ox.ac.uk/undergraduate-admissions/our-courses/ba-philosophy-and-theology.html


Also, given your set of interests you might be well served as well in looking at www.heythrop.ac.uk A specialist college of the University of London, it is never discussed on here but is rather good for what you want.
Reply 7
Original post by fluteflute


The important thing you to consider is which course you want to study! Do you want to study theology as well as philosophy?


Thanks very much for the help much appreciated. That's the thing - I need to find out more about theology but my gut feeling is that I'd rather do single honours philosophy but it is a lot harder to get in :/ (at cambridge)
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Original post by cambio wechsel
Something you should be aware of is that the Oxford P&T course will require that you study for at least a year one of Hebrew, Greek, Arabic, Pali (but what this?), or Sanskrit.***

I don't think not having studied a modern language even to GCSE will be a disadvantage in admissions, but I wonder what was implied by your choosing against doing so (you presumably had the option...) and whether the factors informing that choice might make the P&T course seem less attractive. Oxford P&T has a compulsory language-study component, is the short of it.

Of course, if the reason for which you don't have a modern language is that you passed them up for latin and/or greek then the above was hardly worth my writing out.

*** http://www.theology.ox.ac.uk/undergraduate-admissions/our-courses/ba-philosophy-and-theology.html


Also, given your set of interests you might be well served as well in looking at www.heythrop.ac.uk A specialist college of the University of London, it is never discussed on here but is rather good for what you want.


It does not have a compulsory language element - it is an option but I do not have to take it
Original post by theosjs95
It does not have a compulsory language element - it is an option but I do not have to take it


oof, that's perhaps a relief then, and the prospectus should be clearer in it.

I'm getting the sense that you want to study philosophy at Oxbridge and are looking at the Oxford P&T course only as a path of least resistance. If that's right I'd counsel against it as a tactic. There are good single honours Philosophy courses at a lot of institutions other than Cambridge and your application to Oxford (and your PS) might be weakened if all your other choices are for single-honours philosophy, perhaps to the extent that this might outweigh what you see as the advantage in ease of admission that Oxford has over Cambridge here. Other applicants for P&T will be applying for that course as well at Durham and wherever and will in their personal statements be talking about Karl Barth and the boys. Will Oxford theology read your seeming interest as instrumental?
Reply 10
Hi everyone sorry I haven't been active. Thank you so much for the advice it's been a lot of help. I was wondering if anyone of you went to cambridge, or knows anyone at cambridge, and could help me with colleges? Would be a massive help if anyone could offer some help asap as I really need to decide. I am looking to do philosophy at maybe trinity hall, downing, sidney etc.
Original post by theosjs95
Hi everyone sorry I haven't been active. Thank you so much for the advice it's been a lot of help. I was wondering if anyone of you went to cambridge, or knows anyone at cambridge, and could help me with colleges? Would be a massive help if anyone could offer some help asap as I really need to decide. I am looking to do philosophy at maybe trinity hall, downing, sidney etc.


There's a thread especially for that sort of question: http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/showthread.php?t=634021

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