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Speaking of Fed, do you guys think we will finally get to see Papa Fed vs Baby Fed or Dimitrov will prevent that from happening again by losing to the ever funky Dolgopolov?

Reply 8801

Endless Blue

Original post by Roger1

I feel the same way. It seems that you hate Nadal just as much as I hate him. Speaking of Nadal, where is his biggest fanboy?

Why do you hate Nadal so much? And Nole, for that matter.

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Reply 8802

Badshah

Original post by Endless Blue

Why do you hate Nadal so much? And Nole, for that matter.

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I don't mind Nole and I don't hate Nadal so much. I just feel that he is way overrated. I mean, come on would he be anything but a mere clay courter if the majority of the conditions and surfaces weren't slow. And let's not even talk about his strange quirks. I mean, who picks their butt in public? :tongue:

Reply 8803

Rakas21

Original post by Roger1

Speaking of Fed, do you guys think we will finally get to see Papa Fed vs Baby Fed or Dimitrov will prevent that from happening again by losing to the ever funky Dolgopolov?

Dimitrov is so overated. Only Raonic of the new generation can really be hailed as a future star (or perhaps Jancowicz) based on performance since Tomic has flopped harder than a floppy disk.

Original post by Endless Blue

Why do you hate Nadal so much? And Nole, for that matter.

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While i respect Nole and Murray for their success and athleticism i don't actually like them. I find their style of play to be pretty rigid which makes it a bit boring for me. Nadal plays the percentages too often but he can variate a lot, Federer just makes the game oh so beautiful and Del Potro at times is one of the few players who can make me go "Oh wow".

Who do you follow?

Reply 8804

Ashnard

Original post by Rakas21

I think i'm one of the rare people who loves both, Fed is 1, Nadal is 2, Del Potro 3.

I know that some find Nadal boring to watch (Fed can be pornographic) but i actually love how both play, it's such a contrast but the ability of both is incredible.

I'm completely with you on Del Potro. I'm also fond of Soderling, Rosol, Darcis, and Zeballos. :wink:

But in all seriousness Nadal can be fun to watch IF he is playing a high-quality opponent like Djokovic. Otherwise it's like watching paint dry to be honest.

Reply 8805

usamakhanlodhi

I really haven't been on this forum due to a number of factors,
1. Due to Plusnet did not have an Internet connection through the entire Asian Swing so missed a load of terrific matches and so kept away from the forum
2. Now that I do have Internet its the short indoor part of the season which I always never seem to get into apart from the WTFs. Also feel like I have less time to watch tennis. Although I have been watching the WTA championships although am happy Li Na is playing well really disappointed that Azarenka is playing horrible and as much as I like Sernena wish someone out of the top 8 in the world would challenge her; was really hoping for the Kvitova-Williams match to set the tournament alight but Kvitova never hit full gear and Serena just bulldozed past her.

3. Also got really tired of the fanboys, cough*ub1* cough, and the thread seemed to get dominated by mud slinging on both sides from Federer and Nadal fans

4. Also this is a bit of a stupid reason but my favourite player(Murray) as you all probably know is out with the back so that contributed as well.

Although will try(unfortunately for all of you) post more.

Baby Fed vs Daddy Fed is what the media is calling it, who do people think will emerge victorious? I think Federer in 3 sets.

Also interesting question given Federer has been declining relatuve to his own standards meanwhile Ferrer has literally fallen off a cliff in terms of performance since the FO who do you think will retire first out of Federer and Ferrer?

Reply 8806

Seathestars

Absolutely love my tennis, in terms of playing it's my favourite sport.

@usamakhanklodhi- Watched a bit of the WTA event in Istanbul a couple of days ago, as you say Azarenka was pretty poor but did enough. I think Errani being the ''female Ferrer'' is a very good comparison... neither have big weapons, but both are more than competent players and both move extremely well. Also on a personal level I'm more disappointed that Radwanska is out... I love watching her play tennis but I can't help but feel she needs to adapt her game.

As for Dimitrov vs Federer, I wasn't aware that was on. Is it on TV?

As for the Federer/Ferrer question my personal prediction is that Federer might retire at the end of next season if he can't get back to a higher level... I can see Ferrer going for at least another two seasons if not more though.

Reply 8807

Badshah

Original post by usamakhanlodhi

Baby Fed vs Daddy Fed is what the media is calling it, who do people think will emerge victorious? I think Federer in 3 sets.

Also interesting question given Federer has been declining relatuve to his own standards meanwhile Ferrer has literally fallen off a cliff in terms of performance since the FO who do you think will retire first out of Federer and Ferrer?

I expect Federer to win the match in straight sets. Dimitrov will probably be in awe playing his daddy, so Fed will teach him a thing or not.

And Federer will probably retire at the end of next year, if he has another year similar to this one. Ferrer can/will probably go on until like 35 or something.

Reply 8808

tgwktm

what does everyone think of the paris masters draw?

Reply 8809

Krish4791

Original post by usamakhanlodhi

Hey man, good to hear from you again after so long :smile:

For the Fed vs Dimitrov match, I think the winner of the first set will win the match.

Out of Fed and Ferrer - if Federer really believes that he can play at Rio in 2016, then I think he'll retire later. He doesn't need to prove much more anyway. Are they roughly the same age?

Reply 8810

Krish4791

Does the Paris Masters start on Monday 28th October or Monday 4th November?

Reply 8811

tgwktm

28th of october i think the world tour finals start on november the 4th

Reply 8812

Seathestars

Dimitrov really needs to become stronger mentally if he's going to become a top player.

Reply 8813

Rakas21

Just looking at the win-loss statistics for Del Potro and it does somewhat confirm my assertion that he breached 09 again in 12 (brilliant matches with Fed as well in 12). You can also see that his injury essentially cost him 2 years in performance.

08: 46-16 (70%+)
09: 54-16 (70%+)
10: N/A
11: 48-18 (60%+)
12: 65-17 (79%)
13: (46-13 so far so worst case scenario is 46-16 which is still high 70's, 4 more match wins to seasons end pushes him over 80%)

Nadal this year is an incredible 68-5 which is 90%+ with Djokovic actually still above 80% however in the infamous 2011 season he was also above 90%. Murray is above 80% and Fed surprisingly above 70% so it just illustrates the standard required to stay in the top 8.

The conclusions we draw from this then are that Nadal has a clear lead, Murray and Djokovic have both played well and that Del Potro is just about hanging on behind them.

Reply 8814

Sirocco11

Got to say Pospisil has a bright future - I thought Federer would wipe him out after the first but he's stayed tight with him and played some clutch tennis for someone so young.

Reply 8815

Seathestars

I think Pospisil does have potential but really Federer should have won that 6-3 6-3... most of the time Federer was beating himself more than anything as well.

Reply 8816

Rakas21

Original post by Seathestars

I think Pospisil does have potential but really Federer should have won that 6-3 6-3... most of the time Federer was beating himself more than anything as well.

Can't say i've seen much of him before but at 23 and ranked 40th i'm not sure he's really going to be challenging the top 10, only Raonic and Nikishori have really been the young guys going for that.

I still hold out for Tomic but the past two years have been very poor. We should remember however that he's only just turned 21 and off all the young players his Wimbledon QF probably put more pressure on him than many others. At any rate the fact he was ranked 27th at 19 shows how good he can be when he gets it right and he did win his first tournament as well as have a good Wimbledon so there are baby steps.

Fed's actually been much better this week, you can see that he feels this is his turf and has more confidence. Del Potro however has looked mighty, this Asian swing probably represents the most consistently mighty form he's been in since late 09.

Certainly watching the final tomorrow but i'm going for Del Potro to win in three.

Right now though i'm looking at the 2015-2020 timeframe and i can really only see Del Potro and Raonic really going for it at the moment (though i'm being harsh on Murray and Djokovic as there not that much older), Nikishori, Tomic and Jancowicz could also be up there as could Dimitrov.

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Reply 8817

Seathestars

I think he could, but it's now or never. 2014 will make or break his career IMO... also another player worth mentioning is Gulbis. He could easily be in the world's top 10 for me if his attitude was right.

Tomic showed he was capable at Wimbledon as you mention, not for the first time... I'm not convinced though he has the baseline game to ever be a top 10 player.

Also it should be Del Potro in straight sets tomorrow but we will see.

Reply 8818

Krish4791

For the first time in all of their meetings, I'm actually going to put Del Potro as the favourite for tomorrow's final. He's been in very good form. For Federer to win, he HAS to do 4 things:

1. Play a solid game - consistently strong forehand and backhand.
2. Serve reasonably well.
3. Avoid Del Potro's forehand as far as possible if it's firing.
4. Try not to have any lapses, and capitalise on Del Potro's lapses if he has any.

Good stuff from both Federer and Del Potro this week though, and I look forward to seeing them both at the O2 Arena.