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Original post by L'Evil Fish
Cuddle under the stars?


wenn du willst :wink:


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Original post by thatitootoo
wenn du willst :wink:


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What?:redface:
So after playing Dutch music earlier...
I've found the snake in the hallway, escaping from my place this morning! :wink: He was so tiny though!!! - looked more like a big worm tbh :tongue:
Anyway...appropriate measures have been taken! And the snake has a new loving home (a good distance away from me and my Dutch music) now. Jeder freut sich :grin:


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Original post by boumavilla
Speaking of fluency...

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What does everyone think fluency means?

I saw a website the other day, and it doesn't mean having a mother tongue, it's not quite as advanced as everyone thinks.

But having a good degree of proficiency - ie, able to communicate well with another individual and able to understand what someone is saying with minimal assistance.

On the A1-C2 chart, you're probably looking at B2. :h:


Well, when I speak of fluency I mean speaking it like a native speaker or almost like one. I'm wrong then.
Would the correct word for it be native-speakerish? :P


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Original post by thatitootoo
So after playing Dutch music earlier...
I've found the snake in the hallway, escaping from my place this morning! :wink: He was so tiny though!!! - looked more like a big worm tbh :tongue:
Anyway...appropriate measures have been taken! And the snake has a new loving home (a good distance away from me and my Dutch music) now. Jeder freut sich :grin:


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The only Dutch music I know that isn't in English is Heidevolk. I'm not a big fan of them, but they're alright and they help you learn the language! :h:

Original post by moaningmuffin
Well, when I speak of fluency I mean speaking it like a native speaker or almost like one. I'm wrong then.
Would the correct word for it be native-speakerish? :P


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Mother tongue would be the "native-speakerish" level. It's not so easy to get to that level when you're not from the country! :tongue:
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Original post by EmyJ14



:woo: Romanian! :biggrin: I would love to learn it, and Swedish as well actually, but I'm already learning quite a few- French, Italian and Mandarin actively, but I also do little bits of Spanish (which I studied before in school), German, Esperanto and Welsh :tongue: Some could say I'm crazy too!


I'm on a native-speaker level in German, I could help you :biggrin:
I considered Welsh too, but I'd get too confused with everything :frown:


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Original post by moaningmuffin
I'm on a native-speaker level in German, I could help you :biggrin:
I considered Welsh too, but I'd get too confused with everything :frown:


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How do you start German? I never get round to it.

Der die das die

That's the first said right?:smug:
Original post by boumavilla
The only Dutch music I know that isn't in English is Heidevolk. I'm not a big fan of them, but they're alright and they help you learn the language! :h:



Mother tongue would be the "native-speakerish" level. It's not so easy to get to that level when you're not from the country! :tongue:


Nope. Germans wouldn't recognise me as a non-native.
A few years ago I moved to Frankfurt with very little to no knowledge of German. After a year I was top of (native-speaker) German class at my school and it only improved.
I found it easy, but probably because I was 9 back then and it's not hard at that age. :smile:


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Original post by L'Evil Fish
How do you start German? I never get round to it.

Der die das die

That's the first said right?:smug:


Der die das?
Nonono, don't start worrying about it at such an early stage. :biggrin:
Umm, what about starting with the alphabet and pronunciation and then simple verbs?

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Original post by moaningmuffin
Der die das?
Oh no. Even native-speakers sometimes struggle with it.
I don't really know. I just started learning it because I lived there and I didn't speak any German until that point.
Umm, what about starting with the alphabet and pronunciation and then with simple verbs.


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The articles?

Der Mann
Die Frau
Das Kinder
? :colondollar:

Ich habe, du hast, er hat :lol: I don't know what I'm doing :mmm: I can't apply French or other romance languages to it :emo:
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Original post by L'Evil Fish
Ooooh, didn't know that, but okay :mmm:


I know, it's a really random thing :tongue:

Original post by moaningmuffin
I'm on a native-speaker level in German, I could help you :biggrin:
I considered Welsh too, but I'd get too confused with everything :frown:


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Ah, danke :biggrin:
Original post by L'Evil Fish
The articles?

Der Mann
Die Frau
Das Kinder
? :colondollar:

Ich habe, du hast, er hat :lol: I don't know what I'm doing :mmm: I can't apply French or other romance languages to it :emo:
Odd, that...

Have you considered applying a Germanic language to it? You, know, like, erm, English?

Also it's das Kind and die Kinder.
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Original post by Octopus_Garden
Odd, that...


Have you considered applying a Germanic language to it? You, know, like, erm, English?

Also it's das Kind and die Kinder.

You know what Octo, shut up :tongue:

:rofl: word order is so different...
Original post by L'Evil Fish
You know what Octo, shut up :tongue:

:rofl: word order is so different...
I think that perhaps you'll pick it up if you have a go. Like I have managed to stop handing in French homework with German word order. Because I have been (sort of) trying!
Original post by Octopus_Garden
I think that perhaps you'll pick it up if you have a go. Like I have managed to stop handing in French homework with German word order. Because I have been (sort of) trying!


I'm tempted to actually learn German which is annoying me because I feel it'll end badly.

Okay. I'll start.

I want to go to sleep.

Word order = ?
Original post by L'Evil Fish
I'm tempted to actually learn German which is annoying me because I feel it'll end badly.

Okay. I'll start.

I want to go to sleep.

Word order = ?
ich will zu schlafen gehen. I'm carefully avoiding introducing a separable verb to you here!
Original post by L'Evil Fish
I'm tempted to actually learn German which is annoying me because I feel it'll end badly.

Okay. I'll start.

I want to go to sleep.

Word order = ?

Ich (pronoun) will (auxiliary verb) schlafen gehen (verbs?!).
If you'd ask
'Do I want to go to sleep?', it would be:
Will ich schlafen gehen?
Then the pronoun is after the auxiliary verb.





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Original post by Octopus_Garden
ich will zu schlafen gehen. I'm carefully avoiding introducing a separable verb to you here!


Wrong! :biggrin:
Don't include the 'zu'.
If you tried to sleep you'd use it.
Ich versuche, schlafen zu gehen.


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Original post by Octopus_Garden
ich will zu schlafen gehen. I'm carefully avoiding introducing a separable verb to you here!

Anfangen is separable right? I remember that :tongue:

Original post by moaningmuffin
Ich (pronoun) will (auxiliary verb) schlafen gehen (verbs?!).
If you'd ask
'Do I want to go to sleep?', it would be:
Will ich schlafen gehen?
Then the pronoun is after the auxiliary verb.





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Why is:

I want to go to sleep = I will sleep

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Original post by L'Evil Fish
Anfangen is separable right? I remember that :tongue:



Why is:

I want to go to sleep = I will sleep

:redface:

IT IS INDEED!


This is fun!

'will' - 'wollen' = to want to

so: I want = ich will
& I will = Ich werde
Simples :wink:


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