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Original post by Tigers
then keep not existing.Scotland will never exist because its own people don't want it to have a place in history.Even Kosovo people have more pride


Kosovans were being ethnically cleansed and persecuted. Please don't align us to people who have suffered such horrors. You just confirm my opinion that Nats live in a different reality.
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Original post by MatureStudent36
Kosovans were being ethnically cleansed and persecuted. Please don't align us to people who have suffered such horrors. You just confirm my opinion that Nats live in a different reality.

if you denna think Scotland deserves a country vote no.Scotland canna get independence by itself
Original post by Tigers
if you denna think Scotland deserves a country vote no.Scotland canna get independence by itself


You're comment makes no sense. We could vote yes to separate by ourselves, but all indications are that we won't.....that still doesn't stop is being Scottish or being proud of that fact.

People such as you and Maths Tutor do your cause no favours. Between you you've likened our present situation as being oppressed militarily by another nation. Alex Salmond and the YeSNP campaign have been caught out luring too many times.
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Original post by MatureStudent36
You're comment makes no sense. We could vote yes to separate by ourselves, but all indications are that we won't.....that still doesn't stop is being Scottish or being proud of that fact.

People such as you and Maths Tutor do your cause no favours. Between you you've likened our present situation as being oppressed militarily by another nation. Alex Salmond and the YeSNP campaign have been caught out luring too many times.

being proud with words and with actions is different.People who vote no should be honest and admit that they vote no for their personal finance and they don't care about Scotland.
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Original post by Tigers
if you denna think Scotland deserves a country vote no.Scotland canna get independence by itself


Deserves?

The SNP doesn't think that Scotland 'deserves' its own currency.

For some of us, its not about ideology, whether or not Scotland 'deserves' a country, just whether we'd be better off or not.
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Original post by Quady
Deserves?

The SNP doesn't think that Scotland 'deserves' its own currency.

For some of us, its not about ideology, whether or not Scotland 'deserves' a country, just whether we'd be better off or not.

personal finance then
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Original post by Tigers
being proud with words and with actions is different.People who vote no should be honest and admit that they vote no for their personal finance and they don't care about Scotland.


The two things aren't mutually exclusive.

Seeing everyones standard of living get worse is not what I'd call a better Scotland.
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I don't see why these lads don't deserve a country for their own and always have to be a province of London
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Original post by Tigers
being proud with words and with actions is different.People who vote no should be honest and admit that they vote no for their personal finance and they don't care about Scotland.


I'd argue the opposite. Many people I know who intend to vote yes are doing so not because of a pride in Scotland, but because somebody has sold them the myth that they're receive several thousand pounds of oil money each year. That sounds like greed to me.

I want a sound sustainable future fur me and my children. Not a crazy unsustainable pipe dream that will negatively impact the most vulnerable in society.

As the SNP has now lost the economic argument has SNP HQ to you to start on the emotional arguments again?
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Original post by Quady
The two things aren't mutually exclusive.

Seeing everyones standard of living get worse is not what I'd call a better Scotland.

the birth of Scotland may require some sacrifice
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English audience suggests to dump nuclear waste in Scotland
[video="youtube;7iXRcs-oS0E"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iXRcs-oS0E[/video]
Original post by Tigers
the birth of Scotland may require some sacrifice


People like you really worry me. You worry me because comments like that lead me to believe that you may start doing silly things when you loose.
Original post by Tigers
English audience suggests to dump nuclear waste in Scotland
[video="youtube;7iXRcs-oS0E"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iXRcs-oS0E[/video]


We have Scottish members of the public violently attacking people because they're from England. What point are you trying to make? We should let idiots decide our future?
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Original post by MatureStudent36
People like you really worry me. You worry me because comments like that lead me to believe that you may start doing silly things when you loose.

yes I can run and live
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Original post by MatureStudent36
We have Scottish members of the public violently attacking people because they're from England. What point are you trying to make? We should let idiots decide our future?

let Scotland have its own future
Original post by Tigers
let Scotland have its own future


We have our own future. I have a future now.

It worries me that a nationalist is promoting socialist views and self sacrifice for the country.

Now where have we heard of a national socialist organisation promoting self sacrifice for a country?
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Are there any useful links in describing pros and cons of independence?
Original post by Hectic
Are there any useful links in describing pros and cons of independence?


Heres an internal SNP document on the issue.

http://b.3cdn.net/better/c1d14076ee08022eec_u9m6vd74f.pdf
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Original post by Quady
The English never asked for one...

Thats how democracy works.


What trash! Please don't insult my intelligence.

The English have demanded one. There has FYI been a growing campaign called The Campaign for an English Parliament (funnily enough). It has gathered momentum since 1997.

The Westminster establishment has rejected and rejected and ignored it for years. Only a few minsters have ever proposed the idea in Parliament.

Democracy?! You think we live in a democracy eh? Keep on dreaming!
An interesting read.

http://m.scotsman.com/news/stuart-waiton-16-year-olds-and-the-referendum-1-3156545

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