I've got a degree, I shouldn't be stacking shelves

I am salaried £30K I get paid overtime at £15 an hour, I got a 2.5K bonus at the beginning and I will get a year of end bonus (prob around 3K)and if i go offshore i get paid extra on top of that..... i hope to earn 40K this year.

You said you were hoping to get paid 36K in the first when you grad and then here you say you're on a salary. I call BS. You work in Oil and Gas so what? I'm on a grad scheme and I'd never post my earnings, why would you? The only grads who earn that much on a grad scheme are those in Investment banking or a finance related role, in the City, and they pretty much live at work. Stop dreaming and carry on studying for your degree.

yeh a few months in. Although I am thinkign about switchign to another O&G job.

I call BS. You work in Oil and Gas so what? I'm on a grad scheme and I'd never post my earnings, why would you? The only grads who earn that much on a grad scheme are those in Investment banking or a finance related role, in the City, and they pretty much live at work. Stop dreaming and carry on studying for your degree.

O&G pays well.

Just met up with a mate of mine who's been offshore with his good degree from a good university with ten years experience in the industry. He's just been made redundant. It's experience that counts so you'll be going against guys like him. (. 10 years experience versus your zero)

But then again you'll find that out when/if you start working. I didn't go down the offshore route. I tried, but even though my Uni had very strong links to the O&G industry the arse fell out of it at the time. I chose another route.

Piece of advice though. Don't start bragging about how much money you think you could potentially earn. Wait until you get your first pay packet. At the moment your not earning.

Why are you udner the impression I don't have a job. I have already started on the grad scheme.

I do not worry about your friend; oil and gas is a growing industry and there are many roles I am sure he knows very little about my speciality (or to become my speciality).


Once you're in and got experience you will never be unemployed again. Unless you want too.


I have had my first bonus and a few pay packets.

Now I call BS.

I'm kicking so much ass; chumps on the internet don't even believe it ha.

Theres this wonderful source of information called the Internet where its possible to do searches for things like O&G graduate training programme salaries.

Chump.

That's ridiculous. There are god knows how many photographers out there with excellent references, outstanding portfolios and a wealth of experience. Degrees are not mandatory and it is totally possible to find your own work and build up experience, potentially leading to employment with a bigger company, if that's what desired.

Why wouldn't I post what I earn?

oil and gas pays crazy money... we get a lot more than finance hour for hour.

It's not my fault you never heard of oil and gas pay packets.

You butt hurt by my earnings?

http://www.eon-uk.com/careers/1836.aspx

not my grad scheme, but simialar.

He doesn't work in oil and gas. He wants to work in it. No job yet.

I think he just read something about Roman Abramovich working in oil and he thinks 'he's a billionaire so it must be the thing to work in'. He says it like he is one of the only people to do it, when there are what tens of thousands of jobs in the industry worldwide? I agree, he sounds like a dreamer.

I had a choice, work in the family business (and open my own in the process, which I am doing now) and earn more. Or work for one of those corporates with annoying people like students and earn less income. I went through a bad stage of not having any money when I was starting my business, it was very tough, but now my forecast look good.

Unless I got into the magic circle/front office investment banking, which i wouldn't because i have not got the networks or the grades, i was not happy with the promotion aspects of every company going more or less. I would never be happy being a salaryman.

I was stupid though, you're right, there's no doubt about that. I was stupid for wanting to prove myself by going to university when it is all pointless unless you want a top paying job. It is a financial investment at the end of the day. I had a business earning me a graduate salary at 19 before I went to university, it was online, I had to sell it off. I really think it could have grew to far more than it has become. I did so because I wanted to prove that I am academic enough, granted, I got good grades, just below a first. But was it worth it? No. I thoroughly hated academics. I hated the talks by firms, I hated the whole rank and file corporate culture and subservience, I like control even if it means possibly failing. I tried applying, i did not put much effort into it, i couldn't answer the 'why this firm and career?' questions because quite honestly i just didn't care. I couldn't actually specify why, i hated what they were offering. I hated the fact that i would be a serf living in London, a debt serf and a landlord's subject.

It is not about the job for me, I hate people who say "Oh i do it because I want to enjoy my job and like the long term career projections of the firm". That is bull, for me, a job is about adding as many zeros to the bank balance as possible, **** the pretense.

I agree with you. I think one should try to do something they have an interest in and want to do, not just for money. This guy is one of my inspirations:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grigori_Perelman

He turned down a million dollars because he liked maths, not money.

Quite possibly. I was surprised to see the link he showed me for starting salaries..... But after a bit of digging they seem to be the exception rather than the rule

I think what have it away though is the calibre of those selected tend to be of the kind of people who don't go on a website and start bragging.

Well that job in the link he gave required a Masters and from what I gathered, he doesn't have a Masters; he might not even have a degree yet!

Why would you be looking at grad schemes for other oil companies when you're already on one? My gut instinct is that he's still at uni, started applying for some jobs and might even have a telephone interview or something for a grad scheme.

Theres this wonderful source of information called the Internet where its possible to do searches for things like O&G graduate training programme salaries.

Chump.

I am salaried £30K I get paid overtime at £15 an hour, I got a 2.5K bonus at the beginning and I will get a year of end bonus (prob around 3K)and if i go offshore i get paid extra on top of that..... i hope to earn 40K this year.

It's all a moot point anyway!

There aren't even many shelf stacking jobs! This isn't an issue, not one that I've experienced anyway, people not wanting to work in a supermarket etc. I know several people that have not got a job since University and it isn't because of their attitude, it's down to the almost complete lack of jobs (in my town anyway) and the fact that a lot of stores seem highly reluctant to employ anyone with a degree because they're 'over-qualified'. In fact I found that at the jobcentre I was actively dissuaded from looking for retail work because of this!

The best advisers at the Job Center try and help you on the way to a CAREER not just a job.

I think this whole article is a load of nonsense. I think everyone having a go at the unemployed (Britain's new underclass) need to get a grip. How can anyone bemoan this person the right to study photography and the right to pursue a career in that field??

This is a very cold country, it's all about money, somebody is on JSA in the few months following university and people say all sorts of ****, the whole "he sits on his arse whilst the tax payer blah blah blah" attitude is tearing through this country like the plague. Bitter nobodies, stuck in a dead end job, 9 to 5, think they have a right to pass judgement and tell people how to live their lives. Well it doesn't wash with me, the HUGE majority of graduates will go on to pay taxes for the VAST majority of their lives so don't give me the whole pitiful taxpayer bull****.

I do hate where this country is going and I hate the attitude that so many people harbor towards the unemployed.