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Original post by The_Lonely_Goatherd

Jesus's two commandments! :smile:

I thought that was what you were referring too then I thought maybe she made up her own looool, don't know why XD thanks! :smile:

Reply 5942

The_Lonely_Goatherd

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Original post by lucine.B

I thought that was what you were referring too then I thought maybe she made up her own looool, don't know why XD thanks! :smile:

Haha, dw, I was very unclear :colondollar:

Reply 5943

lucine.B

Original post by The_Lonely_Goatherd

Haha, dw, I was very unclear :colondollar:

Haha aww!

dw about it hehe, you're as clear as can be :h:

Reply 5944

OP

Original post by AspiringMedic8

See if I become a doctor and work as a GP, would it be sinful of me to prescribe contraception?
Problem is, I'm not sure whether you're able to pick and choose who you prescribe contraception to. I know you can refuse to prescribe it at all. but whether you'd be able to prescribe only to married couples, who you're sure won't abuse it, I don't really know :dontknow:

Reply 5945

greeneyedgirl

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Original post by Aula

Sure, that'd be fine.
I can put in the general 'be nice' guidelines too then :sly:

Shall sort that for you now. Sorry was out at a gig

Reply 5946

Original post by AspiringMedic8

Believing in Christ and believing in the Catholic Church are two different things.

Please do not say that I "claim" to believe in God. Do not doubt my faith, it is not your place to.

Oh, sorry, have I been excommunicated for saying contraception has a purpose in a monogamous, married relationship?

Surely natural family planning is also separating the two aspects of sex though?

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Firstly, it is not unreasonable for me to assume you are Catholic as you are posting in TSR Catholic Society which is, as I've been told, for Catholic posters only.

Secondly, I am just just relaying what the Catholic Church teaches which, if you believe Catholicism is true, is what holds objectively true. Artificial contraception is wrong, even if every mind in the universe thought it was intrinsically right. Take from that what you will. This isn't an argument of which beliefs are true or false but just very basic logic. If however you are not a Catholic, then the argument still remains the same. Natural family planning is not the same, even if they both result in no pregnancies.
Catholic- X Believing in Catholic teachings- Y Individual- Z

X=Y
Z≠Y
X=Y
Therefore Z ≠ X

Anyone who wants to argue on this point cannot, there are no loop holes.

(edited 10 years ago)

Reply 5947

AspiringMedic8

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Original post by Aula

Problem is, I'm not sure whether you're able to pick and choose who you prescribe contraception to. I know you can refuse to prescribe it at all. but whether you'd be able to prescribe only to married couples, who you're sure won't abuse it, I don't really know :dontknow:

But is it my responsibility to make sure they do not abuse it, or should I not leave that responsibility to them?

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AspiringMedic8

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Original post by Sylosis

Firstly, it is not unreasonable for me to assume you are Catholic as you are posting in TSR Catholic Society which is, as I've been told, for Catholic posters only.

Secondly, I am just just relaying what the Catholic Church teaches which, if you believe Catholicism is true, is what holds objectively true. Artificial contraception is wrong, even if every mind in the universe thought it was intrinsically right. Take from that what you will. This isn't an argument of which beliefs are true or false but just very basic logic. If however you are not a Catholic, then the argument still remains the same. Natural family planning is not the same, even if they both result in no pregnancies.
Catholic- X Believing in Catholic teachings- Y Individual- Z

X=Y
Z≠Y
X=Y
Therefore Z ≠ X

Anyone who wants to argue on this point cannot, there are no loop holes.

I am a practising Catholic.

Does the bible speak against artificial contraception? Or is it a law of the church?

How is natural family planning not the same? It also results in procreation and marital bonding being separated from sex, especially since it is quite effective.

Is it immoral to prescribe a teenage girl the contraceptive pill for acne?

Is it immoral to give a raped woman the morning after pill?

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Reply 5949

OP

Original post by AspiringMedic8

But is it my responsibility to make sure they do not abuse it, or should I not leave that responsibility to them?

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And if a 16 year old, unmarried girl comes to you for artificial contraception? That's more my point/questions.

Aaaanyways. We have a new first post. Let me know what people think of it. Should I change bits of it, edit bits, add bits?

Also, I was thinking that maybe we should all decide who the patron saint of this thread/society should be. Currently we seem to have St. Isidore of Seville, but I have no idea when that was decided. If anyone has any alternative ideas, or if everyone is happy for him to remain, do say and make suggestions.

Reply 5950

Original post by AspiringMedic8

I am a practising Catholic.

Does the bible speak against artificial contraception? Or is it a law of the church?

How is natural family planning not the same? It also results in procreation and marital bonding being separated from sex, especially since it is quite effective.

Is it immoral to prescribe a teenage girl the contraceptive pill for acne?

Is it immoral to give a raped woman the morning after pill?

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It's the teachings of the Church.

The Church teaches that natural is morally acceptable.

No, turn to the index of your RS GCSE book and look for "double effect".

Yes.

Reply 5951

OP

Original post by AspiringMedic8

I am a practising Catholic.

Does the bible speak against artificial contraception? Or is it a law of the church?

How is natural family planning not the same? It also results in procreation and marital bonding being separated from sex, especially since it is quite effective.

Natural family planning is not the same as it uses the female bodies natural rhythm. It is about respecting the body. Rather than completely preventing the couple from having sex, it means the couple respect each other enough to abstain at times when the woman would get pregnant.

Think of it as being like only eating when you need to eat. If you eat all the time, whenever you want to, and eat whatever you want, you will get fat. This is not a healthy way to live. Your body tells you when you should be eating - when you feel hungry. It's about listening to your body, and to what your body tells you :dontknow:

Reply 5952

Dominic101

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Original post by AspiringMedic8

I am a practising Catholic.

Does the bible speak against artificial contraception? Or is it a law of the church?

How is natural family planning not the same? It also results in procreation and marital bonding being separated from sex, especially since it is quite effective.

Is it immoral to prescribe a teenage girl the contraceptive pill for acne?

Is it immoral to give a raped woman the morning after pill?

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http://www.catholic.org/hf/faith/story.php?id=49496 read clearly what this says about being a "practicing catholic"

Reply 5953

Original post by Aula

And if a 16 year old, unmarried girl comes to you for artificial contraception? That's more my point/questions.

It is wrong whether it is a 16 year old, unmarried girl or whether it is a 40 year old married couple who have been married 20 years.

(edited 10 years ago)

Reply 5954

OP

Original post by Sylosis

It is wrong whether it is a 16 year old, unmarried girl or whether it is a 40 year old married couple who have been married 20 years.

Really unnecessary to post this to me. I've already posted my opinion on the whole thing. My question is whether he'd be prepared to prescribe it to a 16 year old unmarried girl. It was not aimed at you.

Please be nice. This thread is not a place for antagonism, which is what you seem to be aiming for.

Thank you, God bless.

Reply 5955

Original post by Aula

Really unnecessary to post this to me. I've already posted my opinion on the whole thing. My question is whether he'd be prepared to prescribe it to a 16 year old unmarried girl. It was not aimed at you.

Please be nice. This thread is not a place for antagonism, which is what you seem to be aiming for.

Thank you, God bless.

Im sorry if you are really that sensitive. I'm not voicing my opinions here I'm just telling you that from what you and many others have said in this thread, you are approving of things that are sinful. As a catholic it is reasonable for me to be persistant with these things.

(edited 10 years ago)

Reply 5956

OP

Original post by Sylosis

Im sorry if you are really that sensitive. I'm not voicing my opinions here I'm just telling you that from what you and many others have said in this thread, you are approving of things that are sinful

I think you will find that my opinion was that artificial contraception is wrong. I also, however, follow the whole 'judge not lest ye be judged' and 'love one another as I have loved you' type of things.

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