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Any advice for writing them? Writing a scientific abstract and a lay report of a research publication?

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So are you trying to write an abstract for an already published paper, and then a lay summary of it?
For an abstract, there are 7 questions you need to answer:

- Why was the study done?
- Who was studied?
- How many were studied?
- How was it done?
- What was the intervention?
- What were the outcome measures?
- What's the significance of the results of this study?

Most abstracts now use a structured approach (Background/Aims, Methodology, Results, Conclusions), so answer the questions above under those subheadings. You can't use any references and you need to write very concisely - typically you're looking at a word limit of 200-250 words.

As for a lay report, just imagine you're trying to explain the paper to your mum (or other non-medical person if your mum happens to be in healthcare). You need to avoid any medical jargon or explain what each word means.
Original post by Hype en Ecosse
So are you trying to write an abstract for an already published paper, and then a lay summary of it?


Yes :smile:

First experience with this sort of thing.
Original post by Becca-Sarah
For an abstract, there are 7 questions you need to answer:

- Why was the study done?
- Who was studied?
- How many were studied?
- How was it done?
- What was the intervention?
- What were the outcome measures?
- What's the significance of the results of this study?

Most abstracts now use a structured approach (Background/Aims, Methodology, Results, Conclusions), so answer the questions above under those subheadings. You can't use any references and you need to write very concisely - typically you're looking at a word limit of 200-250 words.

As for a lay report, just imagine you're trying to explain the paper to your mum (or other non-medical person if your mum happens to be in healthcare). You need to avoid any medical jargon or explain what each word means.


Thanks :h:
Original post by Becca-Sarah
For an abstract, there are 7 questions you need to answer:

- Why was the study done?
- Who was studied?
- How many were studied?
- How was it done?
- What was the intervention?
- What were the outcome measures?
- What's the significance of the results of this study?

Most abstracts now use a structured approach (Background/Aims, Methodology, Results, Conclusions), so answer the questions above under those subheadings. You can't use any references and you need to write very concisely - typically you're looking at a word limit of 200-250 words.

As for a lay report, just imagine you're trying to explain the paper to your mum (or other non-medical person if your mum happens to be in healthcare). You need to avoid any medical jargon or explain what each word means.


What exactly do you mean by intervention and outcome measures?
Original post by The Angry Stoic
Yes :smile:

First experience with this sort of thing.


Becca's summary is brilliant (and she's published. OoooOOooh. :wink:), so you can follow that. If you've got a choice of what paper you write about, I'd recommend something clinical, as those are easier to be concise about and summarise than basic science, imo. I've been having to do a bunch of basic science reading recently, and the number of experiments and outcome measures some authors are using does my head in. :colonhash:

Original post by The Angry Stoic
What exactly do you mean by intervention and outcome measures?


"Intervention" is the thing that they did. "Outcome measures" are the things they measured at the end - the things that happened after you gave the intervention. The results, basically!

So suppose you want to study the effects of aspirin on the incidence of strokes in people who've already had heart attacks. Your intervention would be "aspirin (dose, frequency, mode of administration)"; your outcome measure would be "number of strokes".
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Original post by Hype en Ecosse
Becca's summary is brilliant (and she's published. OoooOOooh. :wink:), so you can follow that. If you've got a choice of what paper you write about, I'd recommend something clinical, as those are easier to be concise about and summarise than basic science, imo. I've been having to do a bunch of basic science reading recently, and the number of experiments and outcome measures some authors are using does my head in. :colonhash:



"Intervention" is the thing that they did. "Outcome measures" are the things they measured at the end - the things that happened after you gave the intervention. The results, basically!

So suppose you want to study the effects of aspirin on the incidence of strokes in people who've already had heart attacks. Your intervention would be "aspirin (dose, frequency, mode of administration)"; your outcome measure would be "number of strokes".


Ok. We've been given the paper. It's a study on how the excessive consumption of hypotonic fluids is associated with hyponatremia in marathon runners. It's a study where they tested marathon runners blood before and after a race and had them self report their fluid intake.

So is their fluid intake the intervention? Obviously out one measure is prevalence of hyponatremia and how much their sodium levels have dropped after the race right?
Original post by The Angry Stoic
Ok. We've been given the paper. It's a study on how the excessive consumption of hypotonic fluids is associated with hyponatremia in marathon runners. It's a study where they tested marathon runners blood before and after a race and had them self report their fluid intake.

So is their fluid intake the intervention? Obviously out one measure is prevalence of hyponatremia and how much their sodium levels have dropped after the race right?


Well, technically, what Becca's outlined is what you'd include when writing about a clinical trial or experiment. For an observational study, there isn't an intervention. This sounds like an observational study to me.

Here, my abstract would go along the lines of "Here is important background information on which this paper is built. This is why it's important to study this issue." <---this info's usually in the introduction/background section of a paper. Then I'd go on to say "We studied [population] - measuring plasma sodium levels before and after a race, and collected self-reported (how exactly?) data on hypotonic fluid intake." <-- in the methodology section "we found ___" (<--results). Then I'd discuss why the results are important, or what they show. (<--conclusion/discussion section). But you obviously do all that with much fancier and better flowing wording. :tongue:

But yeah, you're right. The outcome measures are the plasma sodium levels, and presence of hyponatraemia. Link to paper, plz?
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Original post by Hype en Ecosse
Well, technically, what Becca's outlined is what you'd include when writing about a clinical trial or experiment. For an observational study, there isn't an intervention. This sounds like an observational study to me.

Here, my abstract would go along the lines of "Here is important background information on which this paper is built. This is why it's important to study this issue." <---this info's usually in the introduction/background section of a paper. Then I'd go on to say "We studied [population] - measuring plasma sodium levels before and after a race, and collected self-reported (how exactly?) data on hypotonic fluid intake." <-- in the methodology section "we found ___" (<--results). Then I'd discuss why the results are important, or what they show. (<--conclusion/discussion section). But you obviously do all that with much fancier and better flowing wording. :tongue:

But yeah, you're right. The outcome measures are the plasma sodium levels, and presence of hyponatraemia. Link to paper, plz?


That's great thanks. I can't directly link it as its on our uni intranet but it's called 'Hyponatremia among Runners in the Boston Marathon' and its from them the New England Journal of Medicine. I'll try to find it on google.
Original post by Hype en Ecosse
Well, technically, what Becca's outlined is what you'd include when writing about a clinical trial or experiment. For an observational study, there isn't an intervention. This sounds like an observational study to me.

Here, my abstract would go along the lines of "Here is important background information on which this paper is built. This is why it's important to study this issue." <---this info's usually in the introduction/background section of a paper. Then I'd go on to say "We studied [population] - measuring plasma sodium levels before and after a race, and collected self-reported (how exactly?) data on hypotonic fluid intake." <-- in the methodology section "we found ___" (<--results). Then I'd discuss why the results are important, or what they show. (<--conclusion/discussion section). But you obviously do all that with much fancier and better flowing wording. :tongue:

But yeah, you're right. The outcome measures are the plasma sodium levels, and presence of hyponatraemia. Link to paper, plz?


http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa043901

This came up on google and actually has an abstract. Have to be very careful I don't get done for plagiarism though!
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Original post by The Angry Stoic
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Do you guys do this as a sit-down exam or have they now seen sense and changed it to more of an open-book format?
Original post by Kinkerz
Do you guys do this as a sit-down exam or have they now seen sense and changed it to more of an open-book format?


I get to do it in my own time but there are strict checks for collusion and plagiarism.
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Original post by The Angry Stoic
I get to do it in my own time but there are strict checks for collusion and plagiarism.

Naturally, although 100-150 people summarising the same paper is bound to draw some overlap.

I'm just glad they're evolving some of the more irksome means of examination.
Original post by The Angry Stoic
http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa043901

This came up on google and actually has an abstract. Have to be very careful I don't get done for plagiarism though!


Don't even read the abstract, imo. It'll just bias your view, and you'll gain more from working out how to do one yourself. The purposes of the abstract is mostly to help you decide "would I want to read this paper?", and since you have no choice... :tongue:

I'd go with:

Background -> Population -> Methods and outcome measures -> Results -> Conclusion
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Original post by The Angry Stoic
Any advice for writing them? Writing a scientific abstract and a lay report of a research publication?

Cheers :smile:


For the abstract, write a very brief summary of the objectives, the method, main results and conclusion.

For the report, stick to the layout of the article if it helps. Use diagrams to explain the results and double check that your understanding complies with that of the original paper. If there are any apparent, mention any criticisms of the study and state alternatives which may have been better.


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Original post by Hype en Ecosse
Becca's summary is brilliant (and she's published. OoooOOooh. :wink:)


Becca can take no credit for this whatsoever! Went to the RCSEng Getting Into Surgical Research day last week and this is a direct copy of my notes from the 'How to get published' lecture :tongue:
Reply 17
"How to Read a Paper" by Trisha Greenhalgh is an excellent book for students /those starting out in academia.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/1444334360

Or

http://www.hstathome.com/tjziyuan/How%20to%20Read%20a%20Paper%20evadence_based%20medicine.pdf

SJC


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Original post by Hype en Ecosse
So are you trying to write an abstract for an already published paper, and then a lay summary of it?



Original post by Becca-Sarah
For an abstract, there are 7 questions you need to answer:

- Why was the study done?
- Who was studied?
- How many were studied?
- How was it done?
- What was the intervention?
- What were the outcome measures?
- What's the significance of the results of this study?

Most abstracts now use a structured approach (Background/Aims, Methodology, Results, Conclusions), so answer the questions above under those subheadings. You can't use any references and you need to write very concisely - typically you're looking at a word limit of 200-250 words.

As for a lay report, just imagine you're trying to explain the paper to your mum (or other non-medical person if your mum happens to be in healthcare). You need to avoid any medical jargon or explain what each word means.


Hello again!

I'm now doing my actual summative PBP!

Could you answer a few more questions?

What should the first line of the abstract be? What should it tell the reader?
Original post by The Angry Stoic
Hello again!

I'm now doing my actual summative PBP!

Could you answer a few more questions?

What should the first line of the abstract be? What should it tell the reader?


Exactly what Becca said: "why was the study done?"

Why is what you're studying an important issue; why did you choose to study it (i.e. what important question about this issue were you trying to answer).

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