Guys: Do you ever notice how non-Western women treat you so much better?

Universities are not made up primarily of white, middle class females. Or am I blind?

If you put as much effort into combatting AIDS and child marriages, rather than trying to ban songs and the exposure of flesh in a newspaper, we might actually be getting somewhere. But we aren't.

I think the demographic does matter, its called diversity.

I actually am an Asian girl (though I change gender on here sometimes for the lulz ), I certainly wouldn't date anyone who wanted me to be his submissive, abused little sex toy, fetishized me as being some weird overly feminine housewife thing due to my race and kept banging on about those Evil Liberated Feminists.

Any guy who seems to hate strong independent women - even if it isn't his cup of tea regarding who he dates - rings alarm bells in my head.

The majority of the female population at a university will likely be white, given our country's numbers.

And the middle-class are more likely to attend university than the working class.

It's not exactly difficult to work out.

Male students obviously aren't going to join feminist societies, either.

If you put as much effort into combatting AIDS and child marriages, rather than trying to ban songs and the exposure of flesh in a newspaper, we might actually be getting somewhere. But we aren't.

I think the demographic does matter, its called diversity.

That's exactly my point! Although I'm of the belief that one can focus on more than one cause at a time, and that campaigning for one cause doesn't mean you'd do much for any others.

I just think that diversity should be achieved by equal opportunities/encouragements, which there are. If the African or Arabian or Filipino girls don't want to join, there's not much you can do about it.

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See, this is the fundamental problem with guys and feminism.

You're a man. You haven't lived a single day in the life of a woman, and you haven't experienced what it's like to be treated as one. What seems like tiny, trifling, insignificant problems to you - especially if you're trying to compare it to SA - are daily issues we constantly have to face and think about, that combine into an altogether bigger problem/ attitude that again you do not see or go through.

Just because we aren't being stoned in the street doesn't mean there aren't problems to be addressed.

It's like people campaigning for awareness of suicide/ depression. Hey, there are people dying! Of cancer! If you put all that effort into fighting cancer, just think of what you could do! What are you fighting depression for?

It's silly, it's childish, and it doesn't automatically mean we have to "put up and shut up" because we're not in the Middle East.

Over 50% yes, but I would not go as far as saying 90% as somebody previously said.

Anyway, not everyone at university is middle class, yes the middle class are more likely to go university, but that does not make them the majority demographic in the university. & why do you think males would not want to join feminist societies, the same with arab women, Chinese, Indian etc etc........ Is it because feminism has failed, and no longer serves a purpose? Is it because it is controlled by the white middle class females, who act only in their own selfish interests (see no more page 3 group).

Is it because they are racist? as well as sexist? Yes. How many feminist societies do campaigns against the Burka/ or stoning of women in Iran, compared to the amount of "no more page 3" campaigns?

Do you see petitions "stop child marriages" or "action on pedo gangs"? No, you see "ban the sun".

See, this is the fundamental problem with guys and feminism.

You're a man. You haven't lived a single day in the life of a woman, and you haven't experienced what it's like to be treated as one. What seems like tiny, trifling, insignificant problems to you - especially if you're trying to compare it to SA - are daily issues we constantly have to face and think about, that combine into an altogether bigger problem/ attitude that again you do not see or go through.

Just because we aren't being stoned in the street doesn't mean there aren't problems to be addressed.

It's like people campaigning for awareness of suicide/ depression. Hey, there are people dying! Of cancer! If you put all that effort into fighting cancer, just think of what you could do! What are you fighting depression for?

It's silly, it's childish, and it doesn't automatically mean we have to "put up and shut up" because we're not in the Middle East.

This. Why do people think caring about being treated like an object here means I don't care about women suffering in Saudi Arabia? Of course I do. But just because it's not as bad here, doesn't mean there aren't problems. It's akin to saying to someone in poverty here "shut up, you should be thankful you're not born in the slums of Iran!!!". Well obviously they're better off than that but it doesn't mean they don't have problems

Men would not want to join societies because they think like the men on TSR. Incapable of seeing beyond themselves and acknowledging where they have certain privilege.

Unless we can pull some official statistics, the demographic debate is a moot point. You can only make ill-informed guesses made to support your own argument.

"Feminism no longer has a purpose..." Only from a man, honestly.

What are the main problems facing middle class white women in Britain?

Having gender roles still in place

Men would not want to join societies because they think like the men on TSR. Incapable of seeing beyond themselves and acknowledging where they have certain privilege.

Unless we can pull some official statistics, the demographic debate is a moot point. You can only make ill-informed guesses made to support your own argument.

"Feminism no longer has a purpose..." Only from a man, honestly.

What exactly does this mean?

This. Why do people think caring about being treated like an object here means I don't care about women suffering in Saudi Arabia? Of course I do. But just because it's not as bad here, doesn't mean there aren't problems. It's akin to saying to someone in poverty here "shut up, you should be thankful you're not born in the slums of Iran!!!". Well obviously they're better off than that but it doesn't mean they don't have problems

I see you complaining more about British women's problems, rather than international women's problems. If you care, show it, don't bang on about small crap. Maybe then, I and others might actually take you seriously for once.

Women have problems in Britain, only a retard would say otherwise, but they are by no means more significant that the **** that goes down in Iran.

Okay, what campaigns has you feminist society currently got going?

Persuade me.

They're not as bad as in other places, but I don't have to put up with injustices happening just because some people have it worse. We don't have to wait for Iran to get fixed before complaining about our own problems