Doctor Who - Discussion Thread III (no untagged future spoilers)

I think it was the romance with Madame de Pompadour. I have always held the view that the Doctor should be asexual and aromantic.

I actually thought the Girl in the Fireplace episode was an awful episode, but it seems I'm the only one

I think it was the romance with Madame de Pompadour. I have always held the view that the Doctor should be asexual and aromantic.

Interesting. I thought Rose and Micky were a little useless as they often are and that smashing mirrors of time could have been better but i thought the writing and acting was exceptional.

You must have hated "The Day of the Doctor" then.

Moffat's obsession and toning everything down to kids level with hardly any deaths is bad for Doctor Who.

I think it was the romance with Madame de Pompadour. I have always held the view that the Doctor should be asexual and aromantic.

So did i. That's genuinely why i hate the rose era.
I mean i loved the episodes don't get me wrong but i had a feeling it would pave the way for a doctor with feeling . And it did.

Plus now i've been watching the Colin baker era (thanks to his cameo) and i have to say i like the subtext joke of this alien is flying around all these amazing places and plays her (peri's) knight in shining armour but he's just not interested. its a plot device that never gets old/less funny.
A more recent example of this is martha.

I just feel the "sexual" aspect of the show has brought it downhill. It's not the only thing that brings the show down but it's definitely a huge factor.

Why are the British public so... I don't even know the word I'm looking for, but why are most people unable to enjoy a drama about space and aliens and one man saving the day through sheer intelligence and awesomeness (and a little bit of charm) without there also being something sexual? Why does he need to kiss his companions? Who do they need to fancy him? Why must he fall in love with Rose? Why? It really ruins the show for me.

While I agree that the sexual/romantic aspects of the show should be toned down a lot, and I don't think the Doctor should have any more love interests, I'm not sure you can put this down to the British public. Or not completely at least. The public don't get to decide what goes into the show, the show runners do. They do respond to public reactions, but the choices are ultimately theirs.

I was always under the impression that they put on the show the sort of thing the British public respond best to, based on other shows on at the time. Perhaps I'm wrong

Either way someone is ultimately to blame for this and I'm not happy! :hitler:

I'm not sure. I'm sure they gauge reactions and try to do more of what people like, but only up to a point. The public response to the Donna/Doctor relationship was extremely positive, but straight away we went back to complicated love stories.

I agree, it doesn't sit well within the Whoniverse. I also think that if the River Song story is to have any weight, the Doctor needs not to have any other love interests. He married her, and we're supposed to think that they have this great, epic love story - yet he's off flirting with every Tom, Dick, and Harry (and their female equivalents).

They dont have to be scary, they just have to be exciting. I didn't think they were scary in Doomsday but that is one of the best Dalek episodes of modern doctor who.

In fact, the only one I can recall being a bit scary with new who was Dalek.

Ever since Moffat took over 90% of the stories have been forgettable and mediocre and all the Dalek stories fit into that 90%.

Martha Jones is easily the worst companion in the history of the show, her character was just incredibly irritating and unmemorable, I was just annoyed they didn't kill her off tbh.

the specials I thought were really good, people confuse me atm, everyone seems to hate shows I loved

Martha SHOULD of been better than Rose as she had more potential just they never developed her, still rather have her for 2 series than whiny Rose.

I just feel the "sexual" aspect of the show has brought it downhill. It's not the only thing that brings the show down but it's definitely a huge factor.

Why are the British public so... I don't even know the word I'm looking for, but why are most people unable to enjoy a drama about space and aliens and one man saving the day through sheer intelligence and awesomeness (and a little bit of charm) without there also being something sexual? Why does he need to kiss his companions? Who do they need to fancy him? Why must he fall in love with Rose? Why? It really ruins the show for me.

Not the British public but steven moffat. Apparently he masterminded the first romance under rtd and has kept them coming since he took over. but now it seems to be here to stay because of (international audiences) i.e. how well the show is doing in America. Which is a shame

From other forums a lot of who fans say the same thing - can we have a companion relationship like when it was the dr and donna or early rose; because they weren't tainted with a silly love storyline, it was just an alien and a mate he picked up from earth to go travelling through space as you do

Edit: i think they're going to have a much harder time with regards to capaldi's doctor and love. He's surely going to be too old for clara right?