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Original post by souktik
Seriously? I can try the ACM without learning to code? Just doing combinatorics and number theory sounds fantastic! :biggrin:

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Yeah, just figure out the algorithms and let your teammate code it up.

You can check out this, http://2013.nwerc.eu/en/results/problems/ the Northwestern European Regional Contest problem sets. You might be interested in problem C, D, E, F.

Unfortunately Cambridge got into World Final this year. If I get into Oxford, I'll compete next year. :biggrin:

BTW, UK doesn't have any contest similar to Putnam, right? (why would I even ask? :colondollar: I suck at maths anyways)
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Original post by hilbert_spaces
Yeah, just figure out the algorithms and let your teammate code it up.

You can check out this, http://2013.nwerc.eu/en/results/problems/ the Northwestern European Regional Contest problem sets. You might be interested in problem C, D, E, F.

Unfortunately Cambridge got into World Final this year. If I get into Oxford, I'll compete next year. :biggrin:

BTW, UK doesn't have any contest similar to Putnam, right? (why would I even ask? :colondollar: I suck at maths anyways)


Actually, I want to know that as well. The Putnam happens to be something I want to participate in pretty badly.

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Original post by souktik
Actually, I want to know that as well. The Putnam happens to be something I want to participate in pretty badly.

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Isn't Putnam for American universities?

Edit: Apologies- didn't read your quote.
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Reply 2143
I did Putnam a couple of weeks ago. It was fun, even if I didn't even understand what some of the questions meant.
Original post by ricraz
I did Putnam a couple of weeks ago. It was fun, even if I didn't even understand what some of the questions meant.


how could you take Putnam?
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Currently at university in America, but applying to go to UK instead.
Original post by ricraz
Currently at university in America, but applying to go to UK instead.


So I guess we are in the same situation? Did your tutor ask you why? I got asked about this for 5 mins...
Anyone surprised by how low the statistics are for this year's MAT exam?


In 2013 the average score on questions 1-5 was:
44.8 (52.1) amongst all applicants;
54.2 (63.0) amongst shortlisted applicants;
60.6 (68.2) amongst successful applicants.
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Original post by SherlockHolmes
Anyone surprised by how low the statistics are for this year's MAT exam?


I'm surprised why someone with 80+ on the MAT got rejected :confused:

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Original post by seohyun
I'm surprised why someone with 80+ on the MAT got rejected :confused:

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Same. In fact, I would have thought 70+ would be enough to get an offer when the average is as low as this year's.

Also, some people that take the test actually get 5 or less?
Original post by seohyun
I'm surprised why someone with 80+ on the MAT got rejected :confused:

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What? Who?
EDIT: Oh, on the PDF.
Original post by SherlockHolmes
Same. In fact, I would have thought 70+ would be enough to get an offer when the average is as low as this year's.

Also, some people that take the test actually get 5 or less?


Probably applying for the fun of it. Not that I see the point of it though...
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Original post by seohyun
I'm surprised why someone with 80+ on the MAT got rejected :confused:

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Original post by SherlockHolmes
Same. In fact, I would have thought 70+ would be enough to get an offer when the average is as low as this year's.

Also, some people that take the test actually get 5 or less?


4 people didn't get an offer with a score of 85+, quite a few more (10-15) didn't get an offer with a score of 80+. I mentioned on the Oxford thread that one perfectly good reason for this is that a lot of the high-flying mathematicians (including a lot of international applicants) whom get 80+ scores are probably also applying to top-Ivies in the USA. It might be the case that if someone gets an offer from a top-Ivy they might withdraw their application from Oxford either before or after interviews, so they wouldn't get an offer from Oxford (and it'd be logged as a rejection). This probably explains 1 or 2 of the 4 people who were rejected with a score of 85+. There are other possible reasons (for example, international qualifications being sub-par, or even not meeting Oxford's standard, might lead to them being rejected despite a good MAT).

Also, the 'rumour' about the 'magic number' on the MAT has always been 90%. Apparently no-one with a 90%+ score has ever been rejected by Oxford themselves, no-one has this year, but I don't know if the rumour is actually true or not. Someone with an MAT score of 80%, but with a very low interview score easily overall falls into the hundreds of applicants with a mediocre combined MAT/interview score, so it isn't really shocking that people with 80-85% have been rejected this year, even considering the fact that the 'average' was lower this year (generally the top 10-20% of the scorers on the MAT are affected less by the difficulty of the MAT paper, compared to the average applicant).
Original post by Noble.
4 people didn't get an offer with a score of 85+, quite a few more (10-15) didn't get an offer with a score of 80+.


I see.

Are the figures you have given inside information or have you worked it out from the graph in the PDF?
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Original post by SherlockHolmes
I see.

Are the figures you have given inside information or have you worked it out from the graph in the PDF?


Did a pixel ratio on the graph :lol:
Original post by Noble.
Did a pixel ratio on the graph :lol:


Haha nice :smile:
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Original post by SherlockHolmes
Haha nice :smile:


Did you get an offer from Oxford? :smile:
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Original post by Noble.
4 people didn't get an offer with a score of 85+, quite a few more (10-15) didn't get an offer with a score of 80+. I mentioned on the Oxford thread that one perfectly good reason for this is that a lot of the high-flying mathematicians (including a lot of international applicants) whom get 80+ scores are probably also applying to top-Ivies in the USA. It might be the case that if someone gets an offer from a top-Ivy they might withdraw their application from Oxford either before or after interviews, so they wouldn't get an offer from Oxford (and it'd be logged as a rejection). This probably explains 1 or 2 of the 4 people who were rejected with a score of 85+. There are other possible reasons (for example, international qualifications being sub-par, or even not meeting Oxford's standard, might lead to them being rejected despite a good MAT).

Also, the 'rumour' about the 'magic number' on the MAT has always been 90%. Apparently no-one with a 90%+ score has ever been rejected by Oxford themselves, no-one has this year, but I don't know if the rumour is actually true or not. Someone with an MAT score of 80%, but with a very low interview score easily overall falls into the hundreds of applicants with a mediocre combined MAT/interview score, so it isn't really shocking that people with 80-85% have been rejected this year, even considering the fact that the 'average' was lower this year (generally the top 10-20% of the scorers on the MAT are affected less by the difficulty of the MAT paper, compared to the average applicant).


Wait, I thought everyone with 85+ got in? Are you sure that the 4 you're talking about aren't in the 80-85 range? Btw, can you please deduce how many people got 90-95?

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rejected. a bit disappointed that I can't experience the Oxford life.

Maybe I shouldn't apply at all, as the tutor said in the interview.

Well, guess I'll just move on. Interning at Google this summer and applying for Ph.D in the next 2 years ...
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Original post by hilbert_spaces
rejected. a bit disappointed that I can't experience the Oxford life.

Maybe I shouldn't apply at all, as the tutor said in the interview.

Well, guess I'll just move on. Interning at Google this summer and applying for Ph.D in the next 2 years ...


"Maybe I shouldn't apply at all, as the tutor said in the interview."
Did the tutor actually say that?

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