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Holocaust of the Jews in Ukraine. Again.

There's something absolutely unthinkable going on in the Motherland of my parents! Almost the same was happening in Germany when the fascists came to power: Jews are accused of every problem in the country, they are threatened, nationalists fish them up in the streets and beat them almost to death, they are forced to abandon their houses and go into nowhere! Everywhere you can see leaflets containing calls for 'butchering the Yids'. Members of the nationalist (!) parliamentary party Svoboda (Freedom) send such messages to their followers.
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It's in Ukrainian but the gist of it is that neo-fascists call for everyone to unite around their leader known for his hatred for Jews - Oleg Tyahnibok and keep the momentum of the protest to slam down current government!
Israel's embassy to Kiev has already sent messages to Ukrainian Jews warning them to go out only in groups of three or four people, not fewer. Basically there's now total chaos and lawlessness reigning in Ukraine, and the peaceful protest of civil society has turned into neo-Nazi street violence.
And just think of it - this is the country EU wanted to sign associated agreement with! In no way should we make such a tragic mistake...

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Reply 1

Kiss

Source?

And for the record, nobody likes Israel.

Reply 2

jelly1000

Original post by Kiss

Source?

And for the record, nobody likes Israel.

Actually you'll find a lot of us do.

Reply 3

Kiss

Original post by jelly1000

Actually you'll find a lot of us do.

Nah, they don't. Possibly the most hated nation in the world behind the US, China, Pakistan and Iran.

Reply 4

jelly1000

Original post by Kiss

Nah, they don't. Possibly the most hated nation in the world behind the US, China, Pakistan and Iran.

Well I know plenty of people who do including myself.

Reply 5

chemrev

Original post by jelly1000

Well I know plenty of people who do including myself.

Well I know even more people who don't, including myself.

Reply 6

TheHistoryStudent

Original post by jelly1000

Well I know plenty of people who do including myself.

Original post by chemrev

Well I know even more people who don't, including myself.

You know...it almost seems like people hold different opinions to each other. What a shock eh?

Reply 7

jelly1000

Original post by TheHistoryStudent

You know...it almost seems like people hold different opinions to each other. What a shock eh?

exactly what i was trying to point out. Kiss seemed to think everyone must hate Israel

Reply 8

Swanbow

Original post by Kiss

Source?

And for the record, nobody likes Israel.

You don't speak on my behalf.

Unfortunately pogroms are nothing new, lets just hope it doesn't get any further than rumours.

Reply 9

jelly1000

Original post by chemrev

Well I know even more people who don't, including myself.

I know of far worse nations to hate. At least Israel is just trying to defend its people

Reply 10

Plainview

Apparently OP needs to rename thread title to: Do you like Israel?

Reply 11

Kiss

Original post by Swanbow

You don't speak on my behalf.

Unfortunately pogroms are nothing new, lets just hope it doesn't get any further than rumours.

Original post by jelly1000

I know of far worse nations to hate. At least Israel is just trying to defend its people

Type Israeli torture into google then get back to me :wink:

Reply 12

The_Dragonborn

You know, I can't read Ukrainian/Cyrillic, so I'm not going to comment on what might be a prank. And with those "get muscle" adverts on the bottom of the page in the link, frankly, I just can't take it seriously.

IMO, the deaths going on in Ukraine are horrible, and that occurs to any deaths, not just those of Jews. May I ask why you are specifically pointing out racist attitudes towards Jews and not other minorities who live in Ukraine?

Edit: The way you used the word "Holocaust". Jews were not the only victims of that horrible policy. They made up the majority, but they weren't the only ones.

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Reply 13

Swanbow

Original post by Kiss

Type Israeli torture into google then get back to me :wink:

I'm aware of allegations of Israeli human rights abuses, which are often exaggerated. Like Hamas or Hezbollah are innocent either ehh?

Reply 14

jelly1000

Original post by Kiss

Type Israeli torture into google then get back to me :wink:

Google Hamas 'human shields' then you'll know what they are up against :wink:

Reply 15

Kiss

Original post by jelly1000

Google Hamas 'human shields' then you'll know what they are up against :wink:

Google Israel and settlements the come back to me with something even less morally outrageous. You're defending a terrorist state run by Zionist scum.

Original post by Swanbow

I'm aware of allegations of Israeli human rights abuses, which are often exaggerated. Like Hamas or Hezbollah are innocent either ehh?

Last time I checked, Hamas didn't steal someone's land and turn it into a ghetto for settlements. You can thank Israel for modern anti-Semitism and its war brooding policies, since they happen to have more nukes than we do.

I'm just hoping for the day that they get eradicated from existence.

Reply 16

tehFrance

Original post by Kiss

And for the record, nobody likes Israel.

For the record, you're wrong. Israel is the only beacon of a true democracy within the Middle East, it's your right to dislike Israel but to say that all do, such lies must not be written.

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Ukraine's a dump, not fit for the EU nor Russia, if Jews are once again under threat, I'm sure they'll be escorted out of the country to Israel (for a handsome sum too no doubt).

Reply 17

Kiss

Original post by tehFrance

Israel is a cancer which should be promptly cured with nuclear weapons.

Reply 18

Swanbow

Original post by Kiss

Israel has a right to exist and even most of the Middle East, including the PLO now accept that. It has been attacked time and time again, in an attempt to destroy it, if my state was in that situation I'd also adopt an over cautious and reactionary strategic policy.

Eradicated from existence? What a lovely person you are. Would you prefer the all the Jews were too eradicated, or just sent back to states they have never lived in?

Reply 19

jelly1000

Original post by Kiss

Google Israel and settlements the come back to me with something even less morally outrageous. You're defending a terrorist state run by Zionist scum.

Last time I checked, Hamas didn't steal someone's land and turn it into a ghetto for settlements. You can thank Israel for modern anti-Semitism and its war brooding policies, since they happen to have more nukes than we do.

I'm just hoping for the day that they get eradicated from existence.