Is Scottish independence a 'good or bad' thing?

The bookies odds have been shortening for Yes for months now! Trust me I have been following them.

Bottle it? I'm going to go out and vote and accept the decision either way. Whats the big deal here haha?

Ignoring the economic questions I take it?

Just like the SNP lol

When the actual vote comes you'll bottle it. Look at the bookmakers mate, they aren't mugs.

Waste of money for one. If we did ask there is not going to be an edinburgh agreement esque treaty saying if Scotland wants closer integration then we will get it, not if the UK as a whole doesn't

Maybe A to B to C is better than B to A to C. Why ask questions of Scotland when we dont have independence yet. Common sense?

Scotland as a whole will bottle it. The issue will be decided on the economics, as it always is. You know, the part the SNP and yourself seem to be refusing reality on.

You still haven't answered my specific question either. Is that because you can't?

A government would never hold a referendum it wasn't going to win.

Just like this one

OK I'll try once more

Can you explain to me how it is in the rUKs interest to have this 'currency union?' I can see why Scotland want it, for a start they need sterlings 'credit history' to raise capital. For the rUK though, there are no benefits whatsoever. Scotland would be able to go on a mammoth spending spree and have it underwritten by another countries taxpayers, it would be poison politically. You must be able to see that this is not going to be allowed to happen?

There is no anti-Scotland agenda here pal, no matter how much you try and spin it. I would be the same if I was having to pay towards Albanias budget.

Well they're doing a p**s poor job at attempting to win it.

The bookies also had Scotland 1/100 to enter the currency union and 50/1 not to...

40% yes 44% no. Is that poor? Funny how the yes vote was 31 % a few months ago and no was in the high 50s.

No they didn't. Those were odds on still using the GBP which, if you actually understood economics and politics, are very different things.

Those odds would have included using the Pound as a traded currency, which absolutely would be Scotlands right to do. That is not the same thing as a currency union. I think you should perhaps go and read about what a central bank does. You would not be independent since you would have no control over your monetary system.

This one?

Well your last point it void. I have never said there was an anti-scottish agenda! I don't think there is one either! Spin on that.

Well Scotland is the rUk second biggest export market. Transaction costs would cost buisnesses a fortune! Also the balance of payments is undoubtedly supported by scotland oil. Furthermore 71% of rUK want us to have a currency union for those reasons!

Our central bank would be in a foreign country. Will the EU beak its own rule to let us in?

I never knew that, from what I read it just said currency union. So no need to go on a rant about knowing economics and politics as if the difference between a currency union and simply pegging the £ is so hard to grasp

You seem to be under the assumption that the bookies odds can't change within 7 months time. As the yes vote is gaining momentum. Then again, you haven't a clue what you're talking about do you?

That is of course assuming that all 3 major parties, the civil service, and most economic pundits are bluffing.

Sorry, it wasn't meant to come across as a rant, it's good you're interested. I can only go on what you posted and it read like that. However, you should realise that odds on 1/100 basically mean it is going to happen, and it's never been that situation on a currency union. That should ring alarm bells.

However, I don't think you understand how bookies work either. They change their odds to tempt the markets, it's not all pure probability. The key is they have always been for the same overall result, i.e. a No vote. If they went towards Yes there would be an avalanche of money onto it (because it's incredibly unlikely) and they would lose a fortune. Bookies don't generally lose fortunes.

Fair enough, guess I should have looked into it more! A lot of the better together campaign are complaining about there being no plan B. I thought it was obvious that they plan to use the pound either way, for a while anyway...despite not wanting to explicitly say that.

Fair enough, guess I should have looked into it more! A lot of the better together campaign are complaining about there being no plan B. I thought it was obvious that they plan to use the pound either way, for a while anyway...despite not wanting to explicitly say that.

Where's 40% said yes?

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scottish_independence_referendum,_2014

It would appear that Joan MacAlpine has been doing her usual cherry picking of information.

The polling results are linked above.

Which recent poll for 2014 shows 40% support?

The only time its hit anything beginning with a 4 was the spurious panelbase poll in August last year that even the SNP disowned itself from as it was biased not even they could defend it.